Sta mislite o ovome...ja vise nemam pojma!!!

Pozdrav svim forumasima!Pre neki dan sam instalirao win7 32-bitni po prvi put.Do sada sam koristio XP u razlicitim varijantama i sve je bilo besprekorno.Instaliram ja,sve odlicno proradi,cak i TV karta i web kamera,ali mi se pojavi jedan problemcic.Naime,igra Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 je pocela da secka,jedva primetno,ali iritirajuce.Sve ostale igre rade besprekorno,GTA4,novi Wolfenstein,Call of Duty-Modern warfare 2 u fulu,nigde ne stucnu.Slican problem sam imao sa Konamijevom igricom kada sam menjao procesor i resio sam ga flesovanjem BIOS-a,tako da sam tako uradio i ovog puta,obzirom da sam presao na novi OS.Uz to sam instalirao i najnovije drajvere za graficku kartu,ali problem nisam resio.Dakle,nista specijalno,ali iritirajuce,obzirom da mi je to jedna od omiljenih igara.Pomisljao sam i na hardverski problem,naravno prvo napajanje,ali je sve radilo dobro do pre par dana.Moze li graficka da trosi vise pod drugim OS-om?Cisto sumnjam,ali razmisljao sam i o tome.Konfiguracija mi je sledeca:DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2600 MHz (13 x 200) 5000+;ploca MSI K9N Neo v2 ,4 giga RAM-a Kingston na 800;grafika NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT (512 MB\DDR3)-nova;hard od 250 giga.Sve to na Thermaltake napajanju od 400W starom manje od godinu dana.Moze li da je directX problem?Svaka ideja bi mi pomogla.Kao i uvek,znam da cete se potruditi da budete od pomoci...pozz iz KG.

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-Proveri zahtevnost igre (readme file)
-Proveri podesavanje grafike u igri (da nije na Full)
-Proveri temperaturu chipseta na maticnoj ploci, mislim da ta plaoca ima pasivno hladjenje pa ima problem sa zagrevanjem, ako ima pasivno hladjenje stavi ventilator za chipset
-Proveri i DirectX (mada mi se cini da tvoja VGA ne podrzava DX 10 a moguce je da igrica to trazi)

poz i javi sta je bilo

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Podrzava DirectX 10,a temperature chipseta,procesora i graficke karte su uredne,nemaju oscilacija.

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To je klasičan bag, za koji ne postoji standardno rešenje. Najverovatnije je, što mogu iz iskustva da ti kažem, da je u pitanju drajver za grafičku, i da moraš da nađeš drajver koji najbolje pasuje na tvoju konfiguraciju. To ne mora nužno da bude najnoviji drajver. Probaj sa različitim verzijama drajvera ako ti je baš stalo.

Meni je tako isto iz nepoznatog razloga u "talasima" usporavao/ubrzavao GRID. Bez ikakvog pravila, mesecima radi besprekorno i onda odjednom počne tako i ništa ne pomaže. Dok nisam skapirao da sam apdejtovao drajver za grafičku. Kada sam našao drajver koji se najbolje slaže sa mojim sistemom, više ga ne menjam.

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Obzirom da je ovaj trenutnoinstalirani drajver jedini na Nvidijinom sajtu koji podrzava win 7 i moju kartu,moracu,znaci,da sacekam da izadju noviji drajveri i da se nadam da ce proraditi.Proveravano je sa drajverom koji je radio na XP,ali bez rezultata.Jednostavno,mozda sedmica ne voli ovu igricu...

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Evo uzroka mog problemcica,nije ni drajver,ni chipset,ni BIOS,ni bug,vec...SUPPORTED CHIPSETS:
NVIDIA - GeForce GTX285, GTX280, GTX260, 9800, 9600, 8800, 8600, 8600, 8500, 7900, 7800, 7600, 7300, 7100, 6800, 6600, FX5900, FX5700, FX5500, FX5200!!!!!!!Ja majstor,kupio graficku ciji chipset ne podrzava ova igrica.Pazite,moju staru 7300GT od pre 100 godina podrzava,a 9500GT na DDR3 memoriji ne?!Samo jos fali da ustanovim da nijednu Konamijevu simulaciju fudbala ne podrzava,pa da se slikam.Tako je to,sada mogu da igram zahtevne pucacine,kojih inace nisam preterani fan,do mile volje,a obican footy,koji moze na puno losijoj masini da radi ne!!!Toliko od mene-HVALA NA PAZNJI!

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Prvi put ovako nesto "čujem", tj. čitam.
Odakle si ovo citirao, sa sajta igrice ?
Zar se ovo ne rešava u samim drajverima grafike ?
Kako to neka igrica ne podržava određeni čipset, zar to nije veoma degradirajuće od izdavača igrice ?
Ipak ti probaj sa još nekim drajverima ili sačekaj novije drajvere.Konami je veoma ozbiljna kompanija i to sebi ne može dozvoliti ! ! !

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Citat jeste sa sajta igrice.Mozete li poverovati?Dinosaurus graficke su podrzane,a 9500GT,koja je relativno novija nije.Gde li je tu logika...???

Dakle pise ovako:

Thank you for purchasing Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 for PC.
This file contains additional information not found in the game manual.
Table of Contents
1) System Requirements
2) Installation
3) Autorun Menu
4) Starting Pro Evolution Soccer 2010
5) Uninstalling Pro Evolution Soccer 2010
6) Controls
7) Memory and Performance
8) Troubleshooting
9) Web Sites
1) System Requirements
MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
Windows XP SP3, Vista SP1
Intel Pentium IV 2.4GHz or equivalent processor
1GB RAM
8GB free hard disk space
4x DVD-ROM Drive
DirectX 9.0c compatible video card. 128MB Pixel Shader 2.0 (NVIDIA GeForce FX or AMD/ATI Radeon 9700 video card)
DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card
DirectX 9.0c or higher (included on Disc)
Multiplayer: TCP/IP 192 kbps or higher
Windows compatible keyboard
800 x 600 monitor resolution

RECOMMENDED SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
Windows XP SP3, Vista SP1
Intel Core2 Duo 2.0GHz or equivalent processor
2GB RAM
8GB free hard disk space
8x DVD-ROM Drive
DirectX 9.0c compatible video card. 256MB Pixel Shader 3.0 (NVIDIA GeForce 7900 or AMD/ATI Radeon HD2400 or better)
DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card
DirectX 9.0c or higher (included on Disc)
Multiplayer: TCP/IP Broadband Internet connection
Windows compatible USB Gamepad
1280 x 720 monitor resolution

SUPPORTED CHIPSETS:
NVIDIA - GeForce GTX285, GTX280, GTX260, 9800, 9600, 8800, 8600, 8600, 8500, 7900, 7800, 7600, 7300, 7100, 6800, 6600, FX5900, FX5700, FX5500, FX5200
AMD/ATI - Radeon HD4800, HD3800, HD2900, HD2400, X1950, X1900, X1800, X1650, X1600, X1550, X1300, X1050, X800, X700, X550, X300, 9800, 9700

It may be necessary to update your hardware drivers before playing.

Laptop versions of these cards may work but are NOT supported.
2) Installation
In order to play Pro Evolution Soccer 2010, you must first install the program on your computer's hard drive.
The Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 DVD contains an Autorun Menu that automatically guides you through the installation process.

To initiate the installation process:
　1. Insert DVD into your computer's DVD-ROM drive.
　2. Once the Autorun Menu appears, click INSTALL.
　3. Follow the on-screen installation instructions.

If the Autorun screen does not appear:
　1. Double-click on the MY COMPUTER icon on your computer's desktop.
　2. Double-click on the DVD-ROM drive showing the Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 icon.
　3. Double-click autorun.exe.

Once you have successfully installed the game, you're ready to play!
3) Autorun Menu
The Autorun Menu will appear any time the Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 DVD is inserted into the DVD-ROM drive.
The menu has several options:

　* Play - Only available after you have installed the game. Click to start playing Pro Evolution Soccer 2010.
　* Install - Only available if you don't have Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 installed on your system. Click to install the game.
　* Uninstall - Only available after you have installed the game. Click to remove the game from your hard drive.
　* Settings - Click to change the display and button settings.
　* Read Me - Click to open the readme file.
　* Exit - Close the Autorun Menu.
4) Starting Pro Evolution Soccer 2010
To begin playing Pro Evolution Soccer 2010, insert the game DVD into the DVD-ROM drive and select Play. Alternatively, click on the Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 icon found within the Konami Evolution Soccer 2010 program folder. (Start bar - Programs - KONAMI - Pro Evolution Soccer 2010). If using Windows Vista, you can start Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 from the "Game Explorer."
5) Uninstalling Pro Evolution Soccer 2010
If you need to uninstall Pro Evolution Soccer 2010, you may do any of the following:

　* Insert the Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 DVD and select Uninstall from the Autorun Menu.
　* Click on the START button, choose Settings, Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, and click on Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 to uninstall
　 the game.
6) Controls
Default Keyboard Controls
UP up arrow
DOWN down arrow
LEFT left arrow
RIGHT right arrow
LONG PASS D
SHORT PASS X
THROUGH PASS W
SHOOT A
CURSOR CHANGE Q
DASH E
STRATEGY/ATT/DEF Z
SPECIAL CONTROLS C




Default Game Pad Controls
UP Y Axis -
DOWN Y Axis +
LEFT X Axis -
RIGHT X Axis +
LONG PASS Button 1
SHORT PASS Button 2
THROUGH PASS Button 4
SHOOT Button 3
CURSOR CHANGE Button 5
DASH Button 6
STRATEGY/ATT/DEF Button 7
SPECIAL CONTROLS Button 8


7) Memory and Performance
Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 requires at least 1GB of RAM and a Pentium IV 2.4GHz processor;
the performance of the game will improve if you have more RAM, a faster processor, and a faster graphics card. Regardless of your machine specs,
you can increase the overall performance of the game by doing the following:

　* Shut down all non-essential Windows programs, especially online chat programs, virus checkers, and screen layout utilities.
　* Regularly defragment your hard drive.
　* Increase your amount of free hard drive space
　* Reduce the hardware sound acceleration level: Click on the Windows Start button, select Run, type "dxdiag," press Enter, click on the Sound
Tab, and slide the Hardware Sound Acceleration bar to "Basic" or "None."
　* Reduce the resolution size and quality from the PES2010 Settings Menu.
8) Troubleshooting
PROBLEM:
My game runs slowly.
SOLUTION:
Make sure your computer satisfies the minimum system requirements.
Run the Settings.exe in the installed folder and try lowering the graphic options in “Display”
Try closing all other programs other than PES2010.
Try updating your video card, sound card and peripheral device drivers.

PROBLEM:
Game screen is not displayed properly. My computer hangs as I try to start up the PES2010 program.
SOLUTION:
Make sure you have installed the latest drivers for your video card.
If not, try downloading the latest driver from the manufacturer’s website (NVIDIA/ATI).

PROBLEM:
Screen resolution options are limited.
SOLUTION:
Run the Settings.exe in the installed folder and lower the quality option in "Display" You will then be able to select higher resolutions.
The resolutions that can be selected in PES2010 vary depending on your video card's VRAM level.
Using a video card with more VRAM will enable you to select higher resolutions.

PROBLEM:
Original disc is required when starting up the PES2010 program.
SOLUTION:
Insert the PES2010 DVD-ROM into the disc drive of your computer.
Your DVD-ROM may be dirty. Clean the disc and try again.
If you have more than one DVD drive in your computer, try using another drive.
Try updating the driver for your DVD drive.

PROBLEM:
The game screen appears to be tearing or rippling.
SOLUTION:
Run the Settings.exe in the installed folder and enable the Vsync option.

PROBLEM:
Pressing LT and RT simultaneously on the Xbox360 controller is not recognized by the program.
SOLUTION:
Run the Settings.exe in the installed folder and enable Xlnput option in the “Controller Settings.”

PROBLEM:
I cannot play online.
SOLUTION:
To play online, you need a Game ID and a registration code.
For details about Game IDs, please refer to the manual.
Please use the 20-character registration code included with the product.

PROBLEM:
Voice chat is not working.
SOLUTION:
Run the Settings.exe in the installed folder and make sure the voice chat option in “online settings” is enabled.
Perform an audio device test of “Sound Properties” in “Voice Chat Settings” to make sure microphone and speakers are working properly.

PROBLEM:
Installation of PES2010 failed.
SOLUTION:
Your DVD-ROM may be dirty. Clean the disc and try again.
If you have more than one DVD drive in your computer, try installing from another drive.
Try copying the DVD-ROM onto the hard disc and run setup.exe from the hard disc.
9) Web Sites
Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc.
www.konami.net

Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH
www.konami-europe.com/games

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Moram ti reći da i ja imam isti problem. Takođe mislim da je problem u drajverima. Na kompu sam imao instaliran Win 7RC na kojem je igra radila perfektno (PES2009). Nakon izlaska RTM verzije updateovao sam win sa RC na aktuelnu verziju i igra je opet radila (PES2010). Prije par dana odlučim da reinstaliram sistem o uradim clean instal RTM i igra odjednom ima simptome koje si ti naveo. Dakle konfiguracija je ista. Pored ovog seckanja nemoguće je da odaberem 16:9 izgled. Instalacija DX nije pomogla kao ni najnoviji drajveri sa oficijelne stranice. Inače, grafička je 8800 GTS... Elem, ja opet igram na XP-u.

Provalio sam da imam probleme samo sa Konamijevim igricama.Znači,osim PES 2010,ne radi ni PES 2009.Napisao sam im mail juče popodne,pa se nadam nekakvom odgovoru,ne rešenju,već objašnjenju.Živo me interesuje da li će mi šibnuti jedan mašinski i diplomatski odgovor.Kao što sam napisao i ranije,čekam još novije drajvere za grafičku,pa ću da vidim.

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Evo,ovako...Posle višednevnog mlaćenja prazne slame,pisanja Konamiju itd,uspeo sam,bar na prvi pogled da rešim problem.Naime,podesio sam igricu da radi u compatibility modu za XP SP3.I,gle čuda,radi!!!Nema više onog dosadnog seckanja,pojavi se ponekad,jednom u 5 minuta,možda.Dakle,može da se igra sasvim korektno.Pošto pretpostavljam da je ovo samo delimično rešenje,ostajem pri odluci da sačekam novije drajvere za grafičku pa da probamo dalje.Toliko od mene.pozz iz Kragujevca.

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