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icon Posle sve muke mislim da je MT krsh...14.07.2009. u 17:54 - pre 179 meseci
Znachi problem je u sledecem...

Napravim queue simple pravilo... Queue tree pravilo... Ogranichenje brzine + prioritet... Sve zivo sam probao i mislim da je MT krsh iz jednog razloga... Ako imam brzinu od 768k i imam tri kompa koja se kache na MT... ako stavim u simple queue, queue tree ili kako god limit at 256k, max limit 768k... Ako neki od ostala dva kompa krene da downloaduje, a ja npr igram igricu... Igrica vuce sa neta 128k...

Umesto da meni godeli limit at, a da ovom drugom kompu dodeli 512k, on odradi da tom kompu koji downloaduje dodeli 700k i vishe... :) Pa chemu onda sluzi limit at????

Evo sad moje trenutno podeshavanje... :)

Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="queue-download" parent=global-out packet-mark="" limit-at=0
queue=wireless-default priority=3 max-limit=768000 burst-limit=0
burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

1 name="queue-users-download" parent=queue-download packet-mark=users D
limit-at=0 queue=queue-PCQ-DOWNLOAD priority=1 max-limit=0 burst-limit=0
burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

2 name="queue-upload" parent=pppoe-out1 packet-mark="" limit-at=0
queue=wireless-default priority=3 max-limit=384000 burst-limit=0
burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

3 name="queue-users-upload" parent=queue-upload packet-mark=users pack U
limit-at=0 queue=queue-PCQ-UPLOAD priority=1 max-limit=0 burst-limit=0
burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s


;;; markiranje korisnika
chain=forward action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=users U passthrough=yes src-address-list=adrese

chain=forward action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=users pack U passthrough=no connection-mark=users U

chain=forward action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=users D passthrough=yes dst-address-list=adrese

chain=forward action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=users D passthrough=no connection-mark=users D


Chak sam odradio i po prioritetu....

0 ;;; P2P-upload-download
chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=P2Pconn passthrough=yes p2p=all-p2p

1 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=P2Pconn passthrough=yes layer7-protocol=bittorent

2 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=P2Pconn passthrough=yes layer7-protocol=e-donkey

3 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=P2Pconn passthrough=yes
layer7-protocol=p2p-file sharing

4 chain=prerouting action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=p2p pack passthrough=no connection-mark=P2Pconn

5 ;;; prerouting za upload
chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=down1 conn passthrough=yes protocol=tcp
dst-port=110,995,143,993,25,20,21

6 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=down1 conn passthrough=yes protocol=tcp dst-port=22
packet-size=1400-1500

7 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=down1 conn passthrough=yes protocol=tcp dst-port=80
connection-bytes=384000-0

8 chain=prerouting action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=down pack passthrough=no connection-mark=down1 conn

9 ;;; prerouting za download
chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=download D passthrough=yes protocol=tcp
src-port=80 connection-bytes=768000-0

10 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=download D passthrough=yes protocol=tcp
src-port=110,995,143,993,25,20,21

11 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=download D passthrough=yes protocol=tcp src-port=22
packet-size=1400-1500

12 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=enn conn D passthrough=yes protocol=icmp

13 chain=prerouting action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=download D passthrough=no connection-mark=download D

14 ;;; Ensign services-upload
chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=EN conn passthrough=yes protocol=tcp
dst-port=53,443,23

15 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=EN conn passthrough=yes protocol=udp dst-port=53

16 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=EN conn passthrough=yes protocol=icmp

17 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=EN conn passthrough=yes protocol=tcp dst-port=22
packet-size=0-1400

18 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=EN conn passthrough=yes protocol=tcp dst-port=80
connection-bytes=0-384000

19 chain=prerouting action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=EN pack passthrough=no connection-mark=EN conn

20 ;;; ensign services-download
chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=enn conn D passthrough=yes protocol=tcp
src-port=53,443,23

21 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=enn conn D passthrough=yes protocol=udp src-port=53

22 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=enn conn D passthrough=yes protocol=tcp src-port=22
packet-size=0-1400

23 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=enn conn D passthrough=yes protocol=tcp src-port=80
connection-bytes=0-768000

24 chain=prerouting action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=EN pack D passthrough=no connection-mark=enn conn D

25 ;;; igrice
chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=igrice passthrough=yes layer7-protocol=wow

26 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=igrice passthrough=yes layer7-protocol=cs 16

27 X chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=igrice passthrough=yes protocol=udp
dst-port=20000-27050

28 chain=prerouting action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=IGRICE pack passthrough=no connection-mark=igrice

29 ;;; communication services-download-upload
chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=comm conn passthrough=yes layer7-protocol=msn

30 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=comm conn passthrough=yes
layer7-protocol=msn file transver

31 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=comm conn passthrough=yes
layer7-protocol=skype to phone

32 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=comm conn passthrough=yes
layer7-protocol=skype to skype

33 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=comm conn passthrough=yes layer7-protocol=teamspeak

34 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=comm conn passthrough=yes layer7-protocol=ventrilo

35 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=comm conn passthrough=yes layer7-protocol=yahoo mes>

36 chain=prerouting action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=comm pack passthrough=no connection-mark=comm conn

37 ;;; ostali paketi-D
chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=ostali -D passthrough=yes protocol=tcp
src-address=!172.16.0.0/16 src-port=!110,995,143,993,25,80,20,21,22,53,443,23

38 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=ostali -D passthrough=yes protocol=udp
src-address=!172.16.0.0/16 src-port=!53,20000-27050

39 chain=prerouting action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=ostali D passthrough=no connection-mark=ostali -D

40 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=ostalo-U passthrough=yes protocol=tcp
dst-address=!172.16.0.0/16 dst-port=!110,995,143,993,25,80,20,21,22,53,443,23

41 chain=prerouting action=mark-connection new-connection-mark=ostalo-U passthrough=yes protocol=udp
dst-address=!172.16.0.0/16 dst-port=!53,20000-27050

42 chain=prerouting action=mark-packet new-packet-mark=ostalo U passthrough=no connection-mark=ostalo-U

i onda queue tree...
4 name="p2p" parent=queue1-Upload packet-mark=p2p pack limit-at=32000 queue=large-default priority=7
max-limit=256000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

5 name="queue-upload-prioritet" parent=queue1-Upload packet-mark=down pack limit-at=64000 queue=large-default
priority=6 max-limit=384000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

6 name="commun" parent=queue1-Upload packet-mark=comm pack limit-at=64000 queue=default priority=5
max-limit=256000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

7 name="igre" parent=queue1-Upload packet-mark=IGRICE pack limit-at=128000 queue=queue-red priority=2
max-limit=384000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

8 name="ensign" parent=queue1-Upload packet-mark=EN pack limit-at=64000 queue=default priority=1 max-limit=384000
burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

9 name="queue1-Upload" parent=global-total packet-mark="" limit-at=0 queue=Bfifo priority=1 max-limit=0
burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

10 name="queue2-Download" parent=global-in packet-mark="" limit-at=0 queue=Bfifo priority=1 max-limit=0
burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

11 name="download-D" parent=queue2-Download packet-mark=download D limit-at=128000 queue=large-default priority=6
max-limit=768000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

12 name="ostalo" parent=queue1-Upload packet-mark=ostalo U limit-at=32000 queue=large-default priority=8
max-limit=128000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

13 name="p2p-D" parent=queue2-Download packet-mark=p2p pack limit-at=64000 queue=large-default priority=7
max-limit=512000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s
14 name="ostalo-D" parent=queue2-Download packet-mark=ostali D limit-at=64000 queue=large-default priority=8
max-limit=256000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

15 name="ensign-D" parent=queue2-Download packet-mark=EN pack D limit-at=128000 queue=default priority=1
max-limit=768000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

16 name="igrice-D" parent=queue2-Download packet-mark=IGRICE pack limit-at=256000 queue=queue-red priority=2
max-limit=768000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

17 name="comm D" parent=queue2-Download packet-mark=comm pack limit-at=128000 queue=default priority=5
max-limit=256000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

18 X name="download-D-igre" parent=queue2-Download packet-mark=download D limit-at=128000 queue=large-default
priority=6 max-limit=384000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

19 name="queue-lokal-U" parent=queue1-Upload packet-mark=lokal-U limit-at=512000 queue=queue LOKAL priority=8
max-limit=1000000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

20 name="queue-lokal-D" parent=queue2-Download packet-mark=lokal-D limit-at=512000 queue=queue LOKAL priority=8
max-limit=1000000 burst-limit=0 burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s


i josh da dodam
0 name="default" kind=pfifo pfifo-limit=100

1 name="ethernet-default" kind=pfifo pfifo-limit=50

2 name="wireless-default" kind=sfq sfq-perturb=5 sfq-allot=1514

3 name="synchronous-default" kind=red red-limit=60 red-min-threshold=10 red-max-threshold=50 red-burst=20
red-avg-packet=1000

4 name="hotspot-default" kind=sfq sfq-perturb=5 sfq-allot=1514

5 name="queue-PCQ-DOWNLOAD" kind=pcq pcq-rate=0 pcq-limit=100 pcq-classifier=dst-address pcq-total-limit=4000

6 name="queue-PCQ-UPLOAD" kind=pcq pcq-rate=0 pcq-limit=50 pcq-classifier=src-address pcq-total-limit=2000

7 name="large-default" kind=pfifo pfifo-limit=1000

8 name="queue-red" kind=red red-limit=1000 red-min-threshold=50 red-max-threshold=300 red-burst=500
red-avg-packet=1000

9 name="queue LOKAL" kind=pfifo pfifo-limit=5000

10 name="Bfifo" kind=bfifo bfifo-limit=8000

11 name="default-small" kind=pfifo pfifo-limit=10

Ovo je treuntno podeshavanje koje uspeva da odrzi ping na 100-200 kad neko optereti download na maximum ali to je mnogo za igre...

E sad poshto sam sve probo i nishta nije urodilo plodom... Sem skripte koja menja queue tree pravila ako neki igra igricu promeni max download na 256k... Ali zar to ne moze preko nekog od ovih pravila???
Eve i skripta, ako nekom zatreba:
inache podelio sam je na dan i noc, jer se igre najvishe igraju nocu

Flags: I - invalid
0 name="Dan" owner="admin" policy=ftp,reboot,read,write,policy,test,winbox,password,sniff
last-started=jan/15/2002 02:00:00 run-count=2 source=
/queue tree enable ostalo;
/queue tree enable p2p;
/queue tree enable queue-upload-prioritet;
/queue tree enable download-D;
/queue tree enable ostalo-D;
/queue tree enable p2p-D;
/queue tree disable ostalo-igre;
/queue tree disable p2p-igre;
/queue tree disable queue-upload-prioritet-igre;
/queue tree disable download-D-igre;
/queue tree disable ostalo-D-igre;
/queue tree disable p2p-D-igre;
/system scheduler disable Noc
1 name="Noc" owner="admin" policy=ftp,reboot,read,write,policy,test,winbox,password,sniff
last-started=jan/15/2002 18:40:00 run-count=186 source=
:global checkrate [/queue tree get igre rate]
:local rate 6000
:if ( $checkrate > $rate ) do={
/queue tree disable ostalo;
/queue tree disable p2p;
/queue tree disable queue-upload-prioritet;
/queue tree disable download-D;
/queue tree disable ostalo-D;
/queue tree disable p2p-D;
/queue tree enable ostalo-igre;
/queue tree enable p2p-igre;
/queue tree enable queue-upload-prioritet-igre;
/queue tree enable download-D-igre;
/queue tree enable ostalo-D-igre;
/queue tree enable p2p-D-igre}
:if ( $checkrate < $rate ) do={
/queue tree enable ostalo;
/queue tree enable p2p;
/queue tree enable queue-upload-prioritet;
/queue tree enable download-D;
/queue tree enable ostalo-D;
/queue tree enable p2p-D;
/queue tree disable ostalo-igre;
/queue tree disable p2p-igre;
/queue tree disable queue-upload-prioritet-igre;
/queue tree disable download-D-igre;
/queue tree disable ostalo-D-igre;
/queue tree disable p2p-D-igre}

2 name="enable-noc" owner="admin" policy=ftp,reboot,read,write,policy,test,winbox,password,sniff
last-started=jan/15/2002 18:20:00 run-count=4 source=/system scheduler enable Noc

E sad... Zakljuchak je da ovaj MT sve ima, ali ima sitnih bagova koje treba otkloniti :), jedan od tih je shto ja ne mogu da stavim limit at, i da kad ostavarujem protok od 32k, a limit at je postavljen na 256k, on meni odvoji tih 256k jer ja imam neki protok... ako je proto na nuli, onda taj protok dodeli ostatku mreze... To bi od prilike radilo kao pcq kad je postavljen rate na 0... Ali to radi samo ako postoje dva korisnika koja hoce da opterete link do maximuma, a onda pcq to podeli na dva... Inache ako jedan korisnik ima 64k protok, onda ce drugi da ima ostatak, umesto da ima punu brzinu-zagarantovanu prvom korisniku... a ako oboje teze da postignu max download onda da se deli na pola...

A evo i u chemu je problem... Igrice vuku sa neta brzinu od 64k (npr.), ali u toku igranja ta brzina se menja recimo sa 64k skace trenutno na 128k ili chak 256k... Ali to nije stabilan protok da one konstantno vuku tu brzinu sa neta, a mikrotik onda jednom korisniku dodeli 64k protok, a one "pikove" u protoku???

Kakvo je vashe reshenje ???
 
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icon Re: Posle sve muke mislim da je MT krsh...14.07.2009. u 23:20 - pre 179 meseci
Mt jeste po nekim pitanjiima krs ali je ponajmanji krs od svega sto je dostupno, a prvo sledece stoje u ponudi a nije toliki krs kosta ko svetog Petra kajgana.

Druga stvar, ako zelis da ti radi QoS onda ne mzoes da shapujes tako da se upotrebi ceo protok. Mora neki procenat maksimalnog protoka da ostane neupotrebljen da bi QoS mogao da funkcionise. Onog trenutka kada korisnici opterete link 100% sva pravila ogranicenja protoka padaju u vodu. To nije problem Mikrotika nego je to tako.
 
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icon Re: Posle sve muke mislim da je MT krsh...15.07.2009. u 10:45 - pre 179 meseci
Koliko kapiram... To bi znacilo da kod :

0 name="queue-download" parent=global-out packet-mark="" limit-at=0
queue=wireless-default priority=3 max-limit=768000 burst-limit=0
burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

1 name="queue-users-download" parent=queue-download packet-mark=users D
limit-at=0 queue=queue-PCQ-DOWNLOAD priority=1 max-limit=0 burst-limit=0
burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

Stavim da max-limit bude npr 700k??? Hm...

Znam ja da uvek treba da ima slobodnog protoka.. I to bi super radilo kad bi mikrotik dodeljivao limit at jer ako ja vuchem 64k, a on meni dodeli 256k onda ima ne upotrebljenog saobracaja... :)

Sad ne znam gde da mu postavim max limit na neku vrednost manju od 768k... Da li bi bilo dobro na queue-download, ili na queue-users-download... Hm... Ovo cu da testiram :)
Mada onda bi mogo da namestim i burst... Hm... Pochinje da mi se svidja.. :)
 
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icon Re: Posle sve muke mislim da je MT krsh...15.07.2009. u 11:22 - pre 179 meseci
Koliko se ja razumem limit-at je CIR a max-limit je MIR?

http://www.tiktube.com/?video=214
http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/CZ09/QoS_Megis.pdf

Vrlo zanimljivo predavanje na temu QoS... mozda ti posluzi.
Pozdrav, NenadS!
 
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icon Re: Posle sve muke mislim da je MT krsh...15.07.2009. u 11:36 - pre 179 meseci
Znam ja to, ali to mi bash i ne radi ... :) (jer fora je ako jedan od korisnika ima limit-at 256k a koristi 64k (koji imaju pikove na 128k jer igra igricu) a drugi korisnik hocje da gleda youtube i taj korisnik ima limit-at 256k a oba korisnika imaju max limit na 768k... E sad problem je shto mikrotik umesto da dodeli drugom korisniku 768k-256k=512k on mu dodeli 768k-64k=704k... i ping i ostalo sve ode ... )
sad cu da probam josh par podeshavanja, da probam da postavim limit-at 10%manje, onda cu videti dalje...

Inache shto se tiche qos megis, to sam video i na tom nekom principu sam i odradio celu mrezu.. :) Hvala :)
 
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icon Re: Posle sve muke mislim da je MT krsh...15.07.2009. u 18:32 - pre 179 meseci
qos radi, kad jednom skontaš kako to odraditi na mikrotik onda više nije problem, jedna pogrešna opcija zna da zeza.

Ja sam se pravo izmučio sa qos, najviše mi je pomogao tutorial sa tiktube o qos

-kod konekcija sam koristio sve prerouting
-na quess tree sve išao na global-total
-koristi pcq (koliko vidim vi niste)

U tom video se govori o sledećim prioritetima:
p2p 8
download 7
kumunikacija 5
user reques 3
ensigin services 1

Najbolje je da pogledate video pa da vidite o čemu se radi

zašto korisiti global total a ne in ili out i još neke sitnice koje će ti vjerovatno otkloniti problem.

 
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icon Re: Posle sve muke mislim da je MT krsh...16.07.2009. u 07:42 - pre 179 meseci
Ja sam koristio pcq kod podele brzine...

Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="queue-download" parent=global-out packet-mark="" limit-at=0
queue=wireless-default priority=3 max-limit=768000 burst-limit=0
burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

1 name="queue-users-download" parent=queue-download packet-mark=users D
limit-at=0 queue=queue-PCQ-DOWNLOAD priority=1 max-limit=0 burst-limit=0
burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

2 name="queue-upload" parent=pppoe-out1 packet-mark="" limit-at=0
queue=wireless-default priority=3 max-limit=384000 burst-limit=0
burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

3 name="queue-users-upload" parent=queue-upload packet-mark=users pack U
limit-at=0 queue=queue-PCQ-UPLOAD priority=1 max-limit=0 burst-limit=0
burst-threshold=0 burst-time=0s

I njih sam vezao za global out, ili za pppoe-out... ako ih stavim za global total, onda ne radi...

Markirao u forward...

onda sam u prerouting markirao saobracaj, kao src port za download... dst port upload......
Onda napravio dva pravila (sad sam stavio za global total)

A mislite da bi trebalo da i ova ostala pravila budu PCQ???

Pogledao sam video, chak sam ga i downloadovo.. e sad tu se navodi da se svakom pravilu za prioritet stavi protok shto je logichno, ali nigde nije receno da svi treba da budu pcq???

Onda poshto imam ne simetricnu brzinu, morao sam da odvojim upload od downloada... E sad imam i dva interfejsa na izlazu, + srcnat... E sad problem je shto onda ne moze da se koristi global-out... :) Zbog src nat... mada ja kada sam stavio, ono radi ????
 
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icon Re: Posle sve muke mislim da je MT krsh...17.07.2009. u 13:24 - pre 179 meseci
@A-l-m-i-r

Sad sam svuda odradio sa PCQ,
name="queue-PCQ-DOWNLOAD" kind=pcq pcq-rate=0 pcq-limit=200
pcq-classifier=dst-address pcq-total-limit=2000

name="queue-PCQ-UPLOAD" kind=pcq pcq-rate=0 pcq-limit=100
pcq-classifier=src-address pcq-total-limit=1000


sam koristio za ogranichenje brzine



name="queue-PCQ-dow-p" kind=pcq pcq-rate=0 pcq-limit=60
pcq-classifier=dst-address pcq-total-limit=600

name="queue-PCQ-uplo-p" kind=pcq pcq-rate=0 pcq-limit=60
pcq-classifier=src-address pcq-total-limit=600

ovo sam koristio za prioritet... stavio sam da za prioritet bude manji pcq-limit nego za ukupan download/upload...

Jel ovo ok ???
 
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icon Re: Posle sve muke mislim da je MT krsh...17.07.2009. u 13:25 - pre 179 meseci
HVALA svima
 
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icon Re: Posle sve muke mislim da je MT krsh...18.07.2009. u 16:11 - pre 179 meseci
Zasto se deshava da protok bude veci od max-limit ???

Evo slikao sam shta se dogadja... :)

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