Hirošima 6 avgust

Ja sam se zapanjio kada sam video ovu animaciju. Moja procena je bila da je u istoriji aktivirano 100-200 nuklearnih bombi. Pogledaj te koliko sam pogrešio
http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/...onacija-od-1945-do-danas-VIDEO

Gleda MO.

A zasto bi se izvinjavali ?

Kao, izvin'te nacisti sto smo vas ubijali, umesto da vam lepo i kulturno dozvolimo da nas porobite i potrujete/spaljujete po logorima ?

Teoretičar, zato što su pobili jedno 500.000 civila iz ćefa.

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Pa u toku je bio drugi svetski rat. Znas, ovaj, celo to stanovnistvo je tripovalo da im je car bog, a oni "divine race"
Znas, tim likovima ne bi bio problem da potamane kineze i amere, do poslednjeg coveka, zene ili deteta.

Da, trebalo bi jos da se Rusi izvine Nemcima sto su im srusili Berlin 1945-te. branko hoce samo malo da se olaksa na Ameriku, ne zanima mnogo njega sta je prethodilo tome.

Strašno je kada pojedinci opravdavaju ubijanje isključivo civila?!
Da, Japanci su počinili neviđeno zlo ali bacanje a.bombe na dva grada i to dva grada koja nisu ranije bombardovana, da bi se videli efekti a.bombe, ne može ništa opravdati.
Pored toga, bacanje a.bombi je čisto političko, da SSSR ne bi dobio okupacionu zonu i da bi USA pokazala svoju moć.
Rat nije ni završen a već je krenuo drugi, drugi koji i dan danas traje!
Dovoljno je pogledati broj USArmy baza na planeti i shvatiti razlog upotrebe a.bombe.

Naravno, uz to su Rusi trebali da disciplinovano i kulturno organizuje prevoz sopstvene nacije do konc. logora. Cisto da pokazu toleranciju
i razumevanje.





Verovao ili ne broj poginulih u ratovima godisnje je trenutno najmanji ikada.

Ma, da, umesto amerikanskih vojnih baza trebele su biti Putinove.
Ali Amerikanci iz čiste pakosti to nisu dozvolili.

Verovao ili ne, iza gotovo svih ratova posle WWII stoji USA?!
Takođe, morbidno je da u XXI veku ima u opšte ratova i stradanja?!

imas li ti dokaza da iza svih ratova stoji USA?

Zasto ne bi bilo ratova u 21. veku?

Ko normalan se izvinjava agresoru gubitniku ?!
Jel' postoji uopste neki takav primer u celokupnoj ljudskoj istoriji ?

Napisao sam gotovo iza svih a ne svih!
Zašto bi u opšte bilo ratova ? Koliko milenijuma treba još da prođe pa da sila prestane da bude argument?

Dok god je neko jaci nikada nece prestati taj argument. To je "sila prirode" od vajkada.


Pozdrav!

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Da,

Afganistan, Cecenija, pre toga voznja tenkova po madjarskoj, poljskoj i ceskoj.

Zasto ne bi bilo ratova? Imas ljude koji ne uvazavaju drugaciji argument osim batina i onda ako mozes prebijes ih i oni se uvere u argumente.

Ajde da ne pominjem Ex-Yu, uzeci Veliku Britaniju i Argentinu. Argentina se kurcila oko Foklandskih ostrva, morali Britanci da ih prevaspitavaju, nije pomagala drugacija argumentacija.
Evo ti drug primer. Imas Izrael i Arape, Arapi se svako malo zalete i dobiju po nosu i opet ne mogu da nauce da Izraelcima ne mogu nista, svi argumenti su na strani Izraela, ali ljudi nikako da shvate i svako malo moraju da dobiju po nosu.

Evo ti treci primer. Sadam, on je prvi napao Kuvaj, nicim izazvan. Umislio da je mnogo jak i da mu pripadaju izvori nafte u Kuvajtu. Nije hteo da se povuce, pravio masakar u Kuvajt Sitiju i usledila je "argumentacija". Opet se nije smirio, receno mu je da ne leti u odredjenim zonama, on nije slusao i opet je usledila "argumentacija".

Ima jos primera.

Ma cela ta priča o izvenjenju, prihvatanju odgovornosti pogotovo generacija koja nije ni bila rodjena tada totalno je glupa. Ne samo Ameri-Japanci.
Ne kapiram kao "izvinite što smo pobili pola miliona ljudi" . "ma sve je ok sami smi smo tražili" mir,mir,mir niko nije kriv. Glupost

_{[Ovu poruku je menjao dusanboss dana 10.08.2015. u 18:45 GMT+1]}

Ta izvinjenja su forma foliranja na fin nacin. U sustini besmileno a odomaceno. Odvalis nekome samar pa kazes "izvini" i kao sve je u redu, nema veze?! Pa opet samar pa opet "izvini". Pa ako se ljuti "sta 'oces, izvinio sam ti se". Pa onda moze eventualno drk u glavu, moze jer nakon toga sledi "izvini" i sve je ok. (?!) I sve uz osmeh broj 9. Reseno.

Ne samo ta zvanicna izvinjenja, izvinjavanja. Isto tako i na privatnom nivou, mozda jos gore. Vazno je biti fin, kulturan, civilizovano se izviniti sto se nekome nesto lose uradilo, reklo...


Pozdrav!

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Kao što rekoh, gotovo svih!
Nabrojao si pet žarišta i u pitanju je bio SSSR i sukob unutar Ruske teritorije, Čečenija.
Evo ti taksativno navedeno američko, turističko razgledanje zemalja na tenkovima (prebroji samo turistička putovanja posle WWII:
IRAN 1946 Nuclear threat - Soviet troops told to leave north.
YUGOSLAVIA 1946 Nuclear threat, naval Odgovor na obaranje američkog aviona.
URUGUAY 1947 Nuclear threat Bombers deployed as show of strength.
GREECE 1947-49 Command operation U.S. directs extreme-right in civil war.
GERMANY 1948 Nuclear Threat Atomic-capable bombers guard Berlin Airlift.
CHINA 1948-49 Troops/Marines evacuate Americans before Communist victory.
PHILIPPINES 1948-54 Command operation CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion.
PUERTO RICO 1950 Command operation Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce.
KOREA 1951-53 (-?) Troops, naval, bombing , nuclear threats U.S./So. Korea fights China/No. Korea to stalemate; A-bomb threat in 1950, and
against China in 1953. Still have bases.
IRAN 1953 Command Operation CIA overthrows democracy, installs Shah.
VIETNAM 1954 Nuclear threat French offered bombs to use against seige GUATEMALA 1954 Command operation, bombing, nuclear threat CIA
directs exile invasion after new gov't nationalized U.S. company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua.
EGYPT 1956 Nuclear threat, troops Soviets told to keep out of Suez crisis; Marines evacuate foreigners.
LEBANON 1958 Troops, naval Army & Marine occupation against rebels.
IRAQ 1958 Nuclear threat Iraq warned against invading Kuwait.
CHINA 1958 Nuclear threat China told not to move on Taiwan isles.
PANAMA 1958 Troops Flag protests erupt into confrontation.
VIETNAM 1960-75 Troops, naval, bombing, nuclear threats Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam; one million killed in longest U.S. war;
atomic bomb threats in l968 and l969.
CUBA 1961 Command operation CIA-directed exile invasion fails.
GERMANY 1961 Nuclear threat Alert during Berlin Wall crisis.
LAOS 1962 Command operation Military buildup during guerrilla war.
CUBA 1962 Nuclear threat, naval Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union.
IRAQ 1963 Command operation CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba'ath Party to power, and Saddam Hussein back from exile to
be head of the secret service.
PANAMA 1964 Troops Panamanians shot for urging canal's return.
INDONESIA 1965 Command operation Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup.
DOMINICANA 1965-66 Troops, bombing Army & Marines land during election campaign.
GUATEMALA 1966-67 Command operation Green Berets intervene against rebels.
CAMBODIA 1969-75 Bombing, troops, naval Up to 2 million killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos.
OMAN 1970 Command operation U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion.
LAOS 1971-73 Command operation, bombing U.S. directs South Vietnamese invasion; "carpet-bombs" countryside.
CHILE 1973 Command operation CIA-backed coup ousts elected marxist president.
CAMBODIA 1975 Troops, bombing Gassing of captured ship Mayagüez, 28 troops die when copter shot down.
ANGOLA 1976-92 Command operation CIA assists South African-backed rebels.
IRAN 1980 Troops, nuclear threat, aborted bombing Raid to rescue Embassy hostages; 8 troops die in copter-plane crash. Soviets warned not
to get involved in revolution.
LIBYA 1981 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down in maneuvers.
EL SALVADOR 1981-92 Command operation, troops Advisors, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers briefly involved in hostage clash.
NICARAGUA 1981-90 Command operation, naval CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines against revolution.
LEBANON 1982-84 Naval, bombing, troops Marines expel PLO and back Phalangists, Navy bombs and shells Muslim positions. 241 Marines killed
when Shi'a rebel bombs barracks.
GRENADA 1983-84 Troops, bombing Invasion four years after revolution.
HONDURAS 1983-89 Troops Maneuvers help build bases near borders.
IRAN 1984 Jets Two Iranian jets shot down over Persian Gulf.
LIBYA 1986 Bombing, naval Air strikes to topple Qaddafi gov't.
BOLIVIA 1986 Troops Army assists raids on cocaine region.
IRAN 1987-88 Naval, bombing US intervenes on side of Iraq in war, defending reflagged tankers and shooting down civilian jet.
LIBYA 1989 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down.
VIRGIN ISLANDS 1989 Troops St. Croix Black unrest after storm.
PHILIPPINES 1989 Jets Air cover provided for government against coup.
PANAMA 1989 (-?) Troops, bombing Nationalist government ousted by 27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed.
LIBERIA 1990 Troops Foreigners evacuated during civil war.
SAUDI ARABIA 1990-91 Troops, jets Iraq countered after invading Kuwait. 540,000 troops also stationed in Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Israel.
IRAQ 1990-91 Bombing, troops, naval Blockade of Iraqi and Jordanian ports, air strikes; 200,000+ killed in invasion of Iraq and Kuwait;
large-scale destruction of Iraqi military.
KUWAIT 1991 Naval, bombing, troops Kuwait royal family returned to throne.
IRAQ 1991-2003 Bombing, naval No-fly zone over Kurdish north, Shiite south; constant air strikes and naval-enforced economic sanctions
LOS ANGELES 1992 Troops Army, Marines deployed against anti-police uprising.
SOMALIA 1992-94 Troops, naval, bombing U.S.-led United Nations occupation during civil war; raids against one Mogadishu faction.
YUGOSLAVIA 1992-94 Naval NATO blokada SRJ.
BOSNIA 1993-? Jets, bombing No-fly zone patrolled in civil war; downed jets, bombed Serbs.
HAITI 1994 Troops, naval Blockade against military government; troops restore President Aristide to office three years after coup.
ZAIRE (CONGO) 1996-97 Troops Troops at Rwandan Hutu refugee camps, in area where Congo revolution begins.
LIBERIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
SUDAN 1998 Missiles Attack on pharmaceutical plant alleged to be "terrorist" nerve gas plant.
AFGHANISTAN 1998 Missiles Attack on former CIA training camps used by Islamic fundamentalist groups alleged to have attacked embassies.
IRAQ 1998 Bombing, Missiles Four days of intensive air strikes after weapons inspectors allege Iraqi obstructions.
YUGOSLAVIA 1999 Bombing, Missiles Jaki NATO vazdušni napadi, pošto je Srbija odbila da se povuče sa Kosova. NATO okupacija Kosova.
YEMEN 2000 Naval USS Cole, docked in Aden, bombed.
MACEDONIA 2001 Troops NATO forces deployed to move and disarm Albanian rebels.
AFGHANISTAN 2001-? Troops, bombing, missiles Massive U.S. mobilization to overthrow Taliban, hunt Al Qaeda fighters, install Karzai regime, and
battle Taliban insurgency. More than 30,000 U.S. troops and numerous private security contractors carry our occupation.
YEMEN 2002 Missiles Predator drone missile attack on Al Qaeda, including a US citizen.
PHILIPPINES 2002-? Troops, naval Training mission for Philippine military fighting Abu Sayyaf rebels evolves into combat missions in Sulu
Archipelago, west of Mindanao.
COLOMBIA 2003-? Troops US special forces sent to rebel zone to back up Colombian military protecting oil pipeline.
IRAQ 2003-? Troops, naval, bombing, missiles Saddam regime toppled in Baghdad. More than 250,000 U.S. personnel participate in
invasion. US and UK forces occupy country and battle Sunni and Shi'ite insurgencies. More than 160,000 troops and numerous
contractors carry out occupation and build large permanent bases.
LIBERIA 2003 Troops Brief involvement in peacekeeping force as rebels drove out leader.
HAITI 2004-05 Troops, naval Marines & Army land after right-wing rebels oust elected President Aristide, who was advised to leave by
Washington.
PAKISTAN 2005-? Missiles, bombing, covert operation CIA missile and air strikes and Special Forces raids on alleged Al Qaeda and Taliban refuge
villages kill multiple civilians. Drone attacks also on Pakistani Mehsud network.
SOMALIA 2006-? Missiles, naval, troops, command operation Special Forces advise Ethiopian invasion that topples Islamist government;
AC-130 strikes, Cruise missile attacks and helicopter raids against Islamist rebels; naval blockade against "pirates" and insurgents.
SYRIA 2008 Troops Special Forces in helicopter raid 5 miles from Iraq kill 8 Syrian civilians
YEMEN 2011-? Bombing, missiles, command operation NATO coordinates air strikes and missile attacks against Qaddafi government during
uprising by rebel army.


Među korištenim izvorima, pored novinskih izveštaja, su izveštaji Kongresa (23 June 1969), 180 Landings by the U.S. Marine Corp History Division, Ege & Makhijani in Counterspy (July-Aug, 1982), "Instances of Use of United States Forces Abroad, 1798-1993" by Ellen C. Collier of the Library of Congress Congressional Research Service, and Ellsberg in Protest & Survive.

Bas tako. Odlicno napisano, hronoloski sredjeno, korisno.

Samo Rusi nisu mogli, nisu imali vremena jer su imali pune ruke posla istrebljenjem svog sopstvenog naroda. Jednostavno "ne postigavam ni ovaj olos domaci" varijanta.

Ne pravdam ili ne branim Ruse sto se nisu vise angazovali po svetu, samo primecujem da su bili previse zauzeti.


Pozdrav!

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