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icon Izbor klima uredjaja12.05.2003. u 16:19 - pre 196 meseci
Kažu ljudi da su Fujitsu najbolje, koje su alternative? Najbolji odnos cena/kvalitet?
 
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja12.05.2003. u 17:43 - pre 196 meseci
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja12.05.2003. u 17:47 - pre 196 meseci
LG sa PLASMA filterima. Kazu jedina zdrava klima.
 
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja12.05.2003. u 18:34 - pre 196 meseci
Zdrava klima? Heh, pa kakva je onda ne-zdrava klima?

Kupi bilo koju klimu samo nemoj da se previše prilagodiš, zato što kad izađeš napolje nećeš moći da dišeš.
 
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja12.05.2003. u 20:41 - pre 196 meseci
Nema tu zdravo nista.. Bolje izaci iz kuce kad radi klima.. Pa kad se malo "stisa" uci.
Tako je bolje... Zbog temperaturnog soka. :)
 
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja12.05.2003. u 22:24 - pre 196 meseci
Uzmi DAEWOO,ja imam to,ima neke filtere za ovo i za ono,moze da sushi
vazduh,moze da greje i tako. Najbolja stvar,zimi grejesh a leti ladish.
Sve na jednom mestu:
http://www.oxo.rs
 
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja12.05.2003. u 22:26 - pre 196 meseci
Samo se ti drzi Fujitsu, kod mene radi 25h dnevno
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja13.05.2003. u 02:10 - pre 196 meseci
1.Fujitsu
2.LG,Panasonic
 
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja13.05.2003. u 04:19 - pre 196 meseci
Pivo,...
a ako ni to ne pomaze idi na more.
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja13.05.2003. u 05:07 - pre 196 meseci
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Zdrava klima? Heh, pa kakva je onda ne-zdrava klima?

Kupi bilo koju klimu samo nemoj da se previše prilagodiš, zato što kad izađeš napolje nećeš moći da dišeš.

Postoji razlika. Klime pored toga sto hlade i greju moraju i da odrzavaju odredjenu vlaznost vazduha, a ovo ne rade sve klime kako treba, tako da je moguce navuci raznorazne bolesti. Ne znam tacno po proizvodjacima koji su dobri a koji ne, ali bezao bih od kupovine klime nekog anonimnog proizvodjaca a usput "jeftinog".
"The possession of anything begins in the mind" - Bruce Lee
 
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja13.05.2003. u 15:02 - pre 196 meseci
Nikad nisam čuo da se neko razboleo zbog klime... možda prehladio ali razboleo?

preteruješ....

U starom stanu sam imao jednu iz '70-tih i radila je veoma često.Niko u kući nije se razboleo zbog nje.
 
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja14.05.2003. u 03:58 - pre 196 meseci
TADIRAN, izraelci koji su radili do skoro za izraelsku vojsku, a od skoro su poceli komercijalni program. Inace su deo Carrier group (likovi koji su izmislili split sistem). Pored mnogo features, ima i razne filtere od plesni, filtraciju vazduha, automatsko iskljucivanje u slucaju smrzavanja ili nekog kvara, radi od -19 do +60 ... mnogo toga. Osim toga koja firma daje maloprodajnu garanciju 7 godina (na kompresor).

LG je krshina, isto kao i samsung. Fujitsu je najbolji od ostalih, panasonic je izvikan a inace je krs, samo sto je stvorio ime jer su do pre 2 godine samo njih prodavali kod nas.

ps. Ne, ne radim za njih, nego sam izuzetno zadovoljan vlasnik :-)

To o razboljevanju je cisto lupetanje.
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja14.05.2003. u 05:08 - pre 196 meseci
Nisam sigurno mislio na sidu i rak, ali ovako nesto:

http://www.beiwaionline.com/englishstudy/march/modern_3.htm
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About two-thirds of the world's population is expected to live in cities by the year 2020 and, according to the United Nations, approximately 3.7 billion people will inhabit urban areas some ten years later. As cities grow, so do the number of buildings that characterise them:1 office towers, factories, shopping malls and high-rise apartment buildings.These structures depend on artificial ventilation systems to keep clean and cool air flowing to the people inside. We know these systems by the term "air-conditioning".
Although many of us may feel air-conditioners bring relief from hot, humid or polluted outside air, they pose many potential health hazards. Much research has looked at how the circulation of air inside a closed environment—such as an office building— can spread disease or expose occupants to harmful chemicals.
One of the more widely publicised dangers is that of Legionnaire's disease, which was first recognised in the 1970s. This was found to have affected people in buildings with air-conditioning systems in which warm air pumped out of the system's cooling towers was somehow sucked back into the air intake, in most cases due to poor design. This warm air was, needless to say, the perfect environment for the rapid growth of disease- carrying bacteria originating from outside the building, where it existed in harmless quantities. The warm, bacteria-laden air was combined with cooled, conditioned air and was then circulated around various parts of the building. Studies showed that even people outside such buildings were at risk if they walked past air exhaust ducts. Cases of Legionnaire's disease are becoming fewer with newer system designs and modifications to older systems, but many older buildings, particularly in developing countries, require constant monitoring.
The ways in which air-conditioners work to "clean" the air can inadvertently cause health problems, too. One such way is with the use of an electrostatic precipitator, which removes dust and smoke particles from the air. What precipitators also do, however, is emit large quantities of positive air ions into the ventilation system. A growing number of studies show that overexposure to positive air ions can result in headaches, fatigue and feelings of irritation.
Large air-conditioning systems add water to the air they circulate by means of humidifiers. In older systems, the water used for this process is kept in special reservoirs, the bottoms of which provide breeding grounds for bacteria and fungi which can find their way into the ventilation system. The risk to human health from this situation has been highlighted by the fact that the immune systems of approximately half of workers in air- conditioned office buildings have developed antibodies to fight off the organisms found at the bottom of system reservoirs. Chemical disinfectants, called "biocides", that are added to reservoirs to make them germ-free, are dangerous in their own right in sufficient quantities, as they often contain compounds such as pentachlorophenol, which is strongly linked to abdominal cancers.
Finally, it should be pointed out that the artificial climatic environment created by air-conditioners can also adversely affect us. In a natural environment, whether indoor or outdoor, there are small variations in temperature and humidity. Indeed, the human body has long been accustomed to these normal changes. In an air- conditioned living or work environment, however, body temperatures remain well under 37℃, our normal temperature. This leads to a weakened immune system and thus greater susceptibility to diseases such as colds and flu.



http://www.qld.asu.asn.au/health&safety/fs_aircon.html
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Air conditioning systems can cause or contribute to a range- of diseases. Unfortunately a lot of the diseases caused by a badly adjusted or poorly maintained air conditioning system may not be properly diagnosed and therefore their work-related nature may not be recognised. A runny nose due to irritation caused by dust or fumes at work may be diagnosed as simply being a cold, flu or bronchitis while other causes are overlooked.

Distributing existing problems
Air conditioning systems can cause or contribute to diseases by distributing already existing fumes, bacteria, gasses and other pollutants. This can result in allergies and infections.

The symptoms can vary but may include a runny, congested, blocked or itchy nose, either dry or productive cough, sore throat, pain on breathing, shortness of breath, wheezing, sneezing, fever, chills, headache, muscular ache, nausea, vomiting and watering eyes.

Breeding bacteria
Diseases caused by air conditioning systems include Humidifier Fever and Hypersensitivity Pneumonitis. Both are flu-like illnesses with symptoms of fever, chills, cough, malaise (generally feeling unwell), chest tightness and dyspnoea (difficult or laboured breathing).

The symptoms of Humidifier Fever may disappear when the worker is absent from the workplace for a day or two, and then reappear 6-8 hours after returning to work- Hypersensitivity Pneurnonitis symptoms are similar but will remain even after vacating the building- The symptoms may develop into a chronic illness if exposure to airborne contaminants continues.

One well known but rare disease caused by such bacteria is the potentially fatal legionnaire's Disease. Legionnaire's Disease starts with symptoms developing 2-10 days after exposure to the bacteria. The first signs are fever, malaise, muscle aches and chills. Sometimes vomiting, diarrhoea, and abdominal pain occur.


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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja14.05.2003. u 11:30 - pre 196 meseci
Ali, taj clanak se odnosi na centralizovane (na nivou zgrada) sisteme za Air Conditioning! Isti su jos jedna posledica "napretka" (naravno u ceni i brzini gradnje) gde se povrsina zgrade pokriva celim plocama od stakla, bez ugradjivanja prozorskih okvira, rucica za otvaranje istih i sarki. Nedostatak atmosfere se pokusava nadoknaditi forsiranom cirkulacijom vazduha, ciji kvalitet zbog toga trpi, pa se vestacki "popravlja" sto dovodi do novih problema, klice se vesele jer im uslovi odgovaraju.

U svakom slucaju, ove male klime su mala deca za te sisteme. Ako se redovno ciste, ne bi trebalo da bude problema sa mikroorganizmima. Jedino moze da zabrine to jonizovanje vazduha, al' to nemaju sve klime.
 
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja15.05.2003. u 05:33 - pre 196 meseci
Ovaj prvi se odnosi na centralizovane sisteme, a ovaj drugi cini mi se ne. Slazem se da su kucne klime mala deca za ove sisteme, i da ako su klime dobro napravljene i odrzavane nema opasnosti, malo sam preterao kada sam rekao - bolesti, mislio sam na prehlade i slicno (koje opet mogu da postanu i hronicne pa da ne budu vise bas bezazlene), hteo sam da kazem samo to da neke klime (uglavnom anonimnih prozivodjaca) ne regulisu dobro vlaznost vazduha i da to izaziva doticne "bolesti"...
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja16.05.2003. u 01:01 - pre 196 meseci
Ja sam se "razbolelala" od te centralne klime, pre 4 godine, kada sam radila, dezurala sam, i celu dezuru ( 8 sati) presedela na jednoj stolici ispod ventilacionog otvora, gledajuci tv.
Neurolog mi je dao dijagnozu "neuropatija", a i sad imam tinitus, zujanje u uvu, ni malo prijatno. Mozda klima i nije uzrok svega ovoga, ko zna, ali se svakako cuvajte tih centralnih klima, ako nista menjajte mesto na kome sedite, nemojte da bude ispod otvora, setajte, ako mozete.
Nemoj mi svakoga dana davati kilo ribe - nauci me da pecam.
 
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja16.05.2003. u 02:15 - pre 196 meseci
Pa ***i ga, sada, i ja sam se proslog leta ukocio kada sam 2 sata znojav radio ispred ventilatora. :-) To nema veze, ljudi sede na promaji pa dobiju upalu uveta, klima nema veze sa tim. Cini mi se da se ovde govori o filtraciji vazduha pre nego o evektu "duvanja u glavu" ili "sedenja ispod otvora", zar ne?
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja16.05.2003. u 16:06 - pre 196 meseci
svaka klima zimi greje, a leti hladi...odnosno zavisi kako ti podesis:-) sve te plasma (zdrave) filtere imaju danasnje, novije klime...npr. ja imam samsung dvanaesticu kuci ona ti pokriva oko 60 kvadrata. znaci:

1. LG
2. Samsung
 
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja24.08.2003. u 11:01 - pre 192 meseci
Po odnosu cjena kvaliteta u Hr je najbolja Samsung dok po kvaliteti:1. Panasonic, 2. Daikin.
Inaće sve one hlade dok kod grijanja je to druga prića. Najbolje je uzeti klimu s inverterom bolje radi a i ušteda na struji je oko 20%.
 
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icon Re: Izbor klima uredjaja24.08.2003. u 19:29 - pre 192 meseci
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bluesman:
TADIRAN, ... Inace su deo Carrier group


Uze mi rech iz usta...
 
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