QINGQI supermoto 200.

Zimus sam uzeo ovaj motocikl, i evo danas sam ga prvi put registrovao i provozao prvih 80 km :)
Prvi utisak je pozitivan, masina je kopija suzukijevog DR modela, i verujem da je isto tako dobra kao i SUZUKI masina,,, samo sto je neuporedivo jeftinija! DUPLO! ili duplo ipo ako se uzme van sezone :) plus ovo je 200 kuba a suzuki je 125.

Nego, da vas sve djuture pitam, jel zna neko gde bih mogao da uzmem zadnji lancanik za ovu masinu koji bi mi omogucio DUZE BRZINE jer jednostavno menjam brzine ko da brojim do 5.
2 pitanje je, da li neko zna gde se nalazi "cuveni majstor" za moto auspuhe, cuo sam ga je negde u vojvodini i da izradjuje auspuhe za motocikle...i da nije skup :)

hvala unapred :)

ako nekome treba EXCEL fajl za izracunavanje BRZINE u odnosu na prenosni odnos ima ovde http://www.apriliaforum.com/techtips/1000/Gearing_V12_RSV.xls

My bike comes with 134 links of 428 chain and sprockets 15 / 48 tooth.

These bikes can benefit from a raised overall gear ratio to lower rpm's at reasonable highway cruising speeds, 44 tooth for the rear sprocket seems to be a preferred size to achieve this.

If we could get a larger 16 tooth engine sprocket it would be about the same gear ratio change and would reduce the amount of chain wear. The smaller the front sprocket the greater the wear rate. In transmission engineering circles it's reckoned that if your application requires a long life, conventional wisdom says don't use a small sprocket with less than 18 teeth. However, I have seen karts with 10 or even 9 teeth on the small sprocket. Most of these guys have to put new sprockets on every race...

We can't get these 16 tooth sprockets easily, and the housing design won't allow for a greater size to be fitted, so it's the rear sprocket for us:

Here are some alternative sprockets from a Suzuki TS125ER that will fit. The part numbers given are the original (OEM) Suzuki numbers, so we can walk in a Suzuki dealership and ask for the correct item without suffering the shame and embarrasment of saying we have a Chinese bike

64511-48730----428 chain----42 teeth
64511-48700----428 chain----44 teeth
64511-48720----428 chain----45 teeth

If you have a spare half hour, this is a wonderful site dealing with bike transmission issues:
http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/SprocketsOtherSizesFAQ.htm

In fact the whole site, dealing mainly with BMW's F650 is a powerhouse of knowledge and wisdom. Very extensive though.
http://faq.f650.com/main.html

Is there any reason you guys are staying with the 428 chain & sprockets? I guess there might be a slight weight advantage, but the 520 will last much longer and require less adjustment.

If you change to 520, you can easily find sprockets from lots of aftermarket suppliers. JT has a good offering and their sprockets can be found just about anywhere.

JT Front sprocket available in: 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 teeth
JT Rear sprocket available in: 39, 45, 46, 48 teeth

All these models use the same countershaft sprocket:
SUZUKI 200 DR200 86-88 3.00 520-112
SUZUKI 200 DR200SE 96-08 3.00 520-112
SUZUKI 200 SP200 86-88 3.00 520-110
SUZUKI 250 DR250 90-93 3.77 520-110
SUZUKI 250 DR250S 90-92 3.77 520-112
SUZUKI 250 DR250SE 93-95 3.00 520-108
SUZUKI 250 DR-Z250 01-07 3.77 520-112
SUZUKI 250 LT250R - Quadracer 85-92 3.50 520-102
SUZUKI 250 LT250S 89-90 3.25 520-86
SUZUKI 250 RM250 1982 3.50 520-114
SUZUKI 250 RM250 1983 3.57 520-116
SUZUKI 250 RM250 84-86 3.57 520-116
SUZUKI 250 RM250 1987 3.57 520-114
SUZUKI 250 RM250 1988 3.85 520-116
SUZUKI 250 RM250 89-96 3.77 520-114
SUZUKI 250 RM250 97-98 3.85 520-114
SUZUKI 250 RM250 99-00 3.69 520-114
SUZUKI 250 RM250 01-03 3.77 520-114
SUZUKI 250 RM250 04-08 3.85 520-114
SUZUKI 250 RMX250 89-98 3.85 520-114
SUZUKI 350 DR350 90-93 3.36 520-110
SUZUKI 350 DR350 94-99 2.93 520-110
SUZUKI 350 DR350S 90-93 3.07 520-108
SUZUKI 350 DR350SE 94-95 2.73 520-110
SUZUKI 350 DR350SE 96-99 2.73 520-108
SUZUKI 400 DR-Z400 00-03 3.36 520-112
SUZUKI 400 DR-Z400E 00-07 3.36 520-112
SUZUKI 400 DR-Z400S 00-08 2.93 520-112
SUZUKI 400 DR-Z400SM 05-08 2.73 520-110

All these models use the same rear sprocket:
SUZUKI 125 TC125 71-77 3.03 520-92
SUZUKI 185 DS185 78-80 3.25 520-102
SUZUKI 185 TC185 74-77 3.25 520-94
SUZUKI 185 TS185 71-81 3.25 520-102
SUZUKI 200 DR200 86-88 3.00 520-112
SUZUKI 200 DR200SE 96-08 3.00 520-112
SUZUKI 200 SP200 86-88 3.00 520-110

I'm running 13 Tooth Front with a 37 tooth Rear, good all around gearing for a dual sport. I had a 14 tooth front before, it's not ideal for this small engine.

Cheers!
ChinaV

The manual I've got covers models from 1997-2007.

The primary reduction and gear ratios have remained the same all those years, but the final reduction has changed slightly.

Here they are:

Primary reduction... 3.157
1st gear............... 3.000
2nd..................... 1.933
3rd...................... 1.437
4th...................... 1.095
5th...................... 0.913

The final reduction ratios are quoted as:

Years 1997 to 2003 and 2007 as 3.000 (15/45)
For 2004, 2005 and 2006 it was 3.916 (12/47)

I assume the figures in brackets are the sprocket sizes?.

Would be nice to be able to fit DR200 sprockets, but I seem to remember someone here (volksjagger?) saying something about how the countershaft on the Qingqi was too short to accomodate 520 sprockets. I can't see the Chinese making a special countershaft, just so they can fit a 428 chain set...

Pozdrav,

izvini sto Ti upadam u rec, ali na ovom forumu ne gajimo trend pitanja "gde mogu da kupim ili popravim nesto", vec iskljucivo diskusiju o tehnickim i aspektima upotrebe.

Posto moj qingqi ima rastojanje od centra ose lancanika do mesta za vijke 90 mm ne odgovaraju spomenuti suzuki lancanici! vec HONDA CG125 i CB125!

moj tormo ima disk na oba tocka ... pa je to mozda razlog.... drugacijeg zadnjeg lancanika.



http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jtr269.jpg

sine moj imam isti motor samo 125-icu,i ide kao l00d...

i jeste mashina od dr-a 125 ccm...

swe je to sitna boranija...........)))))))))

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PhOeNiX

I ja sam mislio da je tako, ali nije. Probaj sedni malo na Suzuki pa ce vidis razliku :P

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Samsung Note II # iPhone 5 user

verovacu ti na slepo :) ako si vozio dr200 i qingqi 200 :) narvno, suzuki je vise od duplo skuplji... trebao bi makar duplo da je bolji :)
iskreno preporucujem qingqi 200 sm. danas sam isao uz i niz avalu..na i van puta. i eto... zadovoljio je moja ocekivanja. motor je prva liga u svakom pogledu!a ja vazim za divljaka, pa ce da vidimo koliko ce da izdrzi :)

pozd

a da, a pre neki dan sam ga terao niz i uz stepenice.. nista nije procurelo iscurelo..i slicno :)
riknula mi sajla za km sat "jedino" :)

Sigurno ti je prvi motor u zivotu :)

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Samsung Note II # iPhone 5 user

Ako, ako, samo pamet u glavu i kacigu preko svega i uzivanje

Poz

ha :)

imas neki dokaz? il opet pricas na slepo? :)

ovo nije tema razgovora ovde, ko je najbolji motociklista il koliko ko ima motociklistickog staza.

rekao sam da je po mom misljenju odlican motor, svi imaju pravo da se sloze ili ne sloze.

odnos novac-kvalitet je ODLICAN!

pozdrav.

E pa tako kazi, a ne Suzuki je toliko, a ovo onoliko.

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Samsung Note II # iPhone 5 user

Qingqi sm 200 ccm 1670 eura (puna cena, sezonska)

Suzuki Dr125 sm verzija na sajmu 3500 eura

vidis, ja imam informacije, a ne ko ti na slepo :) u vazduhu :) i slicno :)

presao prvih 1000 km

odradio 1 servis, modifikovao auspuh...

i dalje je u odlicnom stanju, i dalje se odusevljavam ovim jeftinom kinezu :)

ovo i "daljje" je samo zato sto nisam ocekivao da ovako lagano prolazim sa jeftinom kopijom cuvenog DR-a :) jedva cekam vece kubikaze kineskih motora :)

Motor i dalje sluzi, hvala bogu da nista nije riknulo jer sam divljak :

Ćao, molim za malu pomoć... Razmišljam se između kupovine suzuki ts 125 kubika starog deset ili 15 godina, nisam siguran, al je u super stanju i ovog quingi kineza od 200 kubika, za koji kažete da je kopija dra, lik tvrdi da je suzukijev motor u njemu:), a on je 2009 godište. Na slikama stvarno izgleda super, al sam skeptičan kad su kinezi u pitanju... Sad realno me zanimaju vaša mišljenja... Da li da kupujem stariju mašinu za koju se zna da je dobra ili ovog kineskog replikanta a za potpuno iste pare? Molim za pomoć, savete i sugestije... Pozdrav

Chupa, odgledao sam snimak, pa te molim ako mozes da mi kazes koliko si visok/tezak.
Ovaj motor mi se cini kao donja granica tvoje visine, ili mi se samo cini?