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icon Carrying Condoms Could Land You in Jail17.01.2010. u 13:16 - pre 173 meseci
Bože... retko postujem u ovom delu ES-a, ali ova vest me je sablaznula.

Oduvek smo čitali o idiotskim zakonima pojedinih država, ali su USA nekako oduvek prednjačile u tom "sportu".

Pa evo, pobrinuli su se da se ne opustimo tokom razonode čitanja smešnih zakona.
Da sam žena, ozbiljno bih razmislio šta nosim u torbi...

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Sa tri kondoma se ide u zatvor

Ukoliko u Njujorku, Vašingtonu i San Francusku policija zatekne ženu sa više od dva prezervativa ima pravo da je uhapsi i optuži za prostituciju.


Što je još zanimljivije, ne radi se o nekom od starih lokalnih zakona, već o novim uredbama čiji je cilj sprečavanje sve raširenije nelegalne prostitucije.

Kao što je moglo da se pretpostavi, uredbe su podigle na noge mnogobrojna udruženja za zaštitu prava žena, koje tvrde da se one na taj način praktično primoravaju na seks bez zaštite, dok stvarni kriminalci i prostitutke nesmetano obavljaju posao.

"Zaista je naivno verovati da će zbog ovih uredbi muškarci početi da nose kondome kada krenu u noćne provode, ali je zato sasvim moguće da će biti situacija kada će žene rizikovati i pristati na seks bez zaštite", rekla je predsednica jednog takvog udruženja.

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Don't Carry Condoms in D.C. -- You Could Be Charged With Prostitution

UPDATE: DC police clarify that condoms can be used as a factor in arrest -- but that a person would also have to be congregating with another person, "late at night with no apparent destination" (how often does that happen anyway?) to receive a disperse order, and getting caught congregating again later within the PFZ "will result in arrest without a second warning." We urge you to sign the petition telling the mayors of D.C., New York, and San Francisco that using condoms as a factor discourages sex workers from practicing safe sex and is a public health disaster, especially given the risk of spreading HIV/AIDS.

Think you might get lucky tonight? Well, if you're in D.C., don't bring more than two condoms in your purse, or you could be arrested as a prostitute.

In D.C., police can declare "Prostitution Free Zones" where officers can pick up (I mean, arrest) issue a disperse order to anyone they have "sufficient cause" to suspect of sex work. And they've been accused of using carrying three or more condoms as proof of intent to sell sex -- rather than intent to spend the weekend getting jiggy with a guy. Update: As stated above, a spokesperson clarifies that "sufficient cause" can be "congregating with at least one other person ... late at night with no apparent destination, and in possession of multiple condoms." Failure to disperse, or getting caught again later congregating within the PRZ, will get you arrested "without a second warning." So don't worry too much -- condoms could be a factor in arrest, but you'd also have to be hanging out with someone in the dark, and fail to get out of the PFZ.

But as [url=http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2010/01/03/washington-dc’s-punitive-sex-work-laws-endanger-women’s-health-safety]RH Reality Check points out[/url], the real danger of this practice falls to people who actually are sex workers. [Update: due to some confusion in articles that have picked this story up, we've changed the term "law" to "practice," since by "law" we intended to refer to the declaration of Prostitution Free Zones, as distinguished from the enforcement practice of using condoms as evidence. The minimal other requirements for "sufficient cause" directly discourages sex workers from carrying condoms.] It pushes them to abandon safe sex techniques, putting their own health at risk as well as that of the general population. Add to this the fear of arrest or harassment that keeps sex workers from seeking health care, and you have a recipe for disaster.

Everybody should know by now that the nation's capital has a rampant problem with HIV/AIDS; this backwards practice contributes to its spread (at three times the rate that characterizes a severe epidemic). It's not like you can expect the johns to bring their own rubbers. This practice prioritizes making commercial areas look clean and pretty lady-free, not protecting the public's health.

But the root of the problem isn't this one practice: it's the criminalization of sex work. If you want to criminalize something, stick to pimping -- after all, many of these women have been trafficked unwillingly and subjected to violence. If they weren't so afraid of being arrested for stepping forward to condemn their pimps, we'd have a better chance of finding the true criminals in this situation.

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Smešno je, al' verujem da nekom i nije.

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icon Re: Carrying Condoms Could Land You in Jail17.01.2010. u 13:36 - pre 173 meseci
vrhunski. naročito što durex i trojan pakuju po 3 komada po defaultu.
da su bar stavili 4 pa ajde...
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icon Re: Carrying Condoms Could Land You in Jail17.01.2010. u 13:40 - pre 173 meseci
Klasican kompleks moralnih mesija... rezultat kada je dobar % stanovnistva zesce religiozan, a to je USA.

Mogu da se kladim da je ova praksa progurana od strane nekog imbecila "izvornih" republikanskih uverenja.

Proglasice "War on Whores" - i problem resen :)
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icon Re: Carrying Condoms Could Land You in Jail18.01.2010. u 00:49 - pre 173 meseci
Ma to je smislio neko ko ne moze vise od 2 puta.
 
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icon Re: Carrying Condoms Could Land You in Jail18.01.2010. u 07:45 - pre 173 meseci
"Idiotski" zakoni i pojedinim državama su zapravo posledica presedanskog anglosaksonskog prava. Iako nisam pravnik i ne mogu taj termin 100% tačno da definišem, otprilike kapiram da je to sledeće: ako je jedan sudija jednom nekog osudio za to, i takva presuda nije oborena na višem sudu, onda svako ima pravo da i u budućnosti izrekne istu presudu za isti prestup. Dakle, to najčešće nisu zakoni koji su predloženi od strane vladinih eksperata, pa prošli kroz skupštinsku proceduru i na kraju izglasani.

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icon Re: Carrying Condoms Could Land You in Jail18.01.2010. u 19:17 - pre 173 meseci
pa jesu u ameriku prvo otisli puritanci ili nisu? :P
nema sexa bez "ugovora o ljubavi" i iz zabave...to je no-no...


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icon Re: Carrying Condoms Could Land You in Jail18.01.2010. u 20:29 - pre 173 meseci
logično rešenje koje se nameće prostitutkama je da se jedan isti koristi višekratno - uz eventualno pranje.
na pola smene može da otovri svež.
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icon Re: Carrying Condoms Could Land You in Jail18.01.2010. u 20:33 - pre 173 meseci
Tja

Logicno resenje je da ce qrve traziti od klijenata da imaju kondome, ili ce sa klijentom otici do prodavnice i kupiti isti.

Ostace samo zene koje nisu prostituke a kojima vise kondoma u tasni moze posluziti kao izgovor muriji da ih corkira.

Nanny at its best :(

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