ALFA PLAM COMMO 21kw pec na pelet za etazno

@fistik1988:
Pozdrav i dobrodosla :)
Kotao obara snagu kada se priblizava jenom od dva zadata parametra (ili temperatura vode ili prostorije). Kod tebe verovatno dostigne ta 62 stepena vode ka si mu zadala i obara snagu,a ta temperatura vode nije dovoljna da zagreje kucu. Temperaturu prostorije od 30 stepeni svakako nece da stigne,pa te ogranicava temperatura vode... Po proracunima tebi treba poko 18KW za grejanje,pa je kotao svakako dovoljno jak...
Probaj da postavis temperaturu vode na 70 stepeni pa vidi sta se desava u kuci,da li uspeva da se zagreje.
Neka to bude prvi korak,pa cemo da vidimo dalje ako to ne uspe :)

@fizikohemicar
Hvala :).
Probacemo sutra da povecamo temperaturu vode na 70 pa da vidimo sta ce biti. Inace kotao ne radi lose, u rezimu 2 je i uglavnom kada postigne temperaturu radi na 1 ili ulazi u modulate, sve je to generalno ok, neka i trosi nije vazno, svesni smo da mora da trosi da bi nas grejalo, kuca je velike kubature nije standardnih plafona, ali da nam bar bude toplo. Ovako se za sada ne osecamo prijatno, nije hladno ali.. Pojacacemo sutra pa se javljam. :)

Potpis

Alfa plam Commo Compact 23kw
100kvadrata (3,30 visina plafona) + 50kvadrata (2,60 visina plafona)
Termoglave na radijatorima, bez trokrakog ventila
Bez stiropor izolacije (55cm zid dupla puna cigla), drvena stolarija

@fistik1988
Odvrnite malo i te termoglave :-). Ako peć radi na kecu a hladno je u kući - znači da su poprilično zavrnute.

Potpis

Commo Compact 23 (4-18 kW) ,180m2 u 3 etaže na 870 mnv , izolacija 5cm zid ,20cm krov
VTC 512 @60C ,9 panelnih radijatora +termoglave , 2 sušača ,100L kombi bojler, T vode 65 C
Električni kotao Vaillant 18kW
Klima inverteri: MITSUBISHI MSZ-SF42VE, HITACHI RAC-DJ50

@maks-rs
Dnevna i trpezarija termo glave na 4, spavace 3 sobe na 3, jedan manji hodnik na 2 i jedan veci na 3, mislim da nisu previse zavrnuti, tu gde bi trebalo da je najtoplije i gde najvise boravimo je na 4..? Radijatori su prilicno vruci, 2-3 sekinde drzis ruku i mora se sklanjati bar u gde su termo glave na 4.

Potpis

Alfa plam Commo Compact 23kw
100kvadrata (3,30 visina plafona) + 50kvadrata (2,60 visina plafona)
Termoglave na radijatorima, bez trokrakog ventila
Bez stiropor izolacije (55cm zid dupla puna cigla), drvena stolarija

@fistik1988

Ja da tako podesim kod sebe , sjedio bi u kaputu :-) . Dignite to za po 1 .

Potpis

Commo Compact 23 (4-18 kW) ,180m2 u 3 etaže na 870 mnv , izolacija 5cm zid ,20cm krov
VTC 512 @60C ,9 panelnih radijatora +termoglave , 2 sušača ,100L kombi bojler, T vode 65 C
Električni kotao Vaillant 18kW
Klima inverteri: MITSUBISHI MSZ-SF42VE, HITACHI RAC-DJ50

@maks-rs
Znaci mislite svuda pomeriti termo glavu za jedan, sa 4 na 5, sa 3-4 itd?

Potpis

Alfa plam Commo Compact 23kw
100kvadrata (3,30 visina plafona) + 50kvadrata (2,60 visina plafona)
Termoglave na radijatorima, bez trokrakog ventila
Bez stiropor izolacije (55cm zid dupla puna cigla), drvena stolarija

Da , naročito zbog visine prostorija.

Potpis

Commo Compact 23 (4-18 kW) ,180m2 u 3 etaže na 870 mnv , izolacija 5cm zid ,20cm krov
VTC 512 @60C ,9 panelnih radijatora +termoglave , 2 sušača ,100L kombi bojler, T vode 65 C
Električni kotao Vaillant 18kW
Klima inverteri: MITSUBISHI MSZ-SF42VE, HITACHI RAC-DJ50

Hvala Vam, vec sutra cemo pokusati.

Potpis

Alfa plam Commo Compact 23kw
100kvadrata (3,30 visina plafona) + 50kvadrata (2,60 visina plafona)
Termoglave na radijatorima, bez trokrakog ventila
Bez stiropor izolacije (55cm zid dupla puna cigla), drvena stolarija

koja je cena termoglava i preporuka proizvodjaca ili je to sve jedno cije su?

Nekako najbolji su HERZ i HEIMEIR, koštaju u kompletu sa ventilom od 10 do 15 E.

Potpis

Commo Compact 23 (4-18 kW) ,180m2 u 3 etaže na 870 mnv , izolacija 5cm zid ,20cm krov
VTC 512 @60C ,9 panelnih radijatora +termoglave , 2 sušača ,100L kombi bojler, T vode 65 C
Električni kotao Vaillant 18kW
Klima inverteri: MITSUBISHI MSZ-SF42VE, HITACHI RAC-DJ50

Hvala

Hello,
there is somebody whit this problem? When i set 65 C T of water /the T of of room i set 28C/ it working on 5 step reach 63C than start to work at 3 step and never reach 65 C awlays stay 2C under of set T. If i set 60C it work again on 5 reach 58C and than swith on 3 and work on this way independent of what temperature i set. If I set 70C stop on 68 ...... Please help did i have problem whit electronic or i must change something of settings. I change my factory parameters like this:
n-8-1 Type pellet
n-8-1-01 Load pelet 00
n-8-2 Tupe Chimney
n-8-2-01 Ecxaust Chimney 03
n-8-3 Bank Data 00
n-8-4 Settings General
n-8-4-01 Halt Restart 05'
n-8-4-02 Asp-Min Spento 10'
n-8-4-03 Preload Light 50''/56
n-8-4-04 Waiting Fire 100''
n-8-4-05 Exh-Spee Preload 1800
n-8-4-06 Differen Off Auto 04.0c/2.0C
n-8-4-07 Del-off Auto 02'
n-8-4-08 Change Output 20''
n-8-4-09 Exchang Cleaning 225U
n-8-4-10 Frozen Keybord OFF
n-8-4-11 Black Out 30''
n-8-4-12 Time Service OFF
n-8-4-13 Modo Stand-By 02/ i try 1 NO changes, on 3 start to work stand by
n-8-5 Test Outpust
n-8-6 Settings Factory
n-8-6-01 Minutes Time Out 18'
n-8-6-02 Minuti Start 02'
n-8-9-03 Cadence Cleaning 10'/ 30min
n-8-6-04 Auger Light 1.1''
n-8-6-05 Coclea Start 1.1''
n-8-6-06 Coclea Pover1 1.3''/1.7
n-8-6-07 Coclea Pover2 2.0''/2.3
n-8-6-08 Coclea Pover3 3.0''/3.1
n-8-6-09 Coclea Pover4 4.0''/4.5
n-8-6-10 Coclea Pover5 5.0''/5.6
n-8-6-11 Dely Alarm 30''
n-8-6-12 Duration Cleaning 90''
n-8-6-13 Threshol Minimum 45c/43
n-8-6-14 Threshol Maximum 220c/180
n-8-6-15 Thresol Blower 60c
n-8-6-16 Exhaust En-Start 2250
n-8-6-17 Exhaust Engi-Avv 2650/2350
n-8-6-18 Exhaust Engine1 1750/1450
n-8-6-19 Exhaust Engine2 1950 /1650
n-8-6-20 Exhaust Engine3 2150 /1750
n-8-6-21 Exhaust Engine4 2350 /1950
n-8-6-22 Exhaust Engine5 2700 /2050
n-8-6-23 Encoder ON
n-8-6-24 Time Breaking 0.2''
n-8-6-25 Treshol Pump 50c/55 C
n-8-6-26 Exclued Pressure ON
n-8-6-27 Treshol Pression 2.5b
n-8-6-28 Treshol OFF 70c
n-8-6-29 Exh-Spee Cleaning 2800
n-8-6-30 Auger Cleaning 0.5''
n-8-6-31 Speed Blow1 130u
n-8-6-32 speed Blow2 150u
n-8-6-33 Speed Blow3 170u
n-8-6-34 Speed Blow4 185u
n-8-6-35 Speed Blow5 225u
n-8-7 Reset Par-Time
n-8-8 Reset Alarm
n-8-9 Memory Counters

@bmahob

Your Alfa commo working properly, does not achieve the set temperature of water because you have poor insulation and high thermal losses.
I would advise you to restore the factory settings.

Potpis

Commo Compact 23 (4-18 kW) ,180m2 u 3 etaže na 870 mnv , izolacija 5cm zid ,20cm krov
VTC 512 @60C ,9 panelnih radijatora +termoglave , 2 sušača ,100L kombi bojler, T vode 65 C
Električni kotao Vaillant 18kW
Klima inverteri: MITSUBISHI MSZ-SF42VE, HITACHI RAC-DJ50

Da li neko moze da mi pomogne i kaze mi sta znaci kad se na displeju pojavljuje svakih 5-6 sekundi END SERVICE??

@mark-rs
ok i`m agree that i don`t have insulation and thermal losses, but WHY everytime the set T is 2C under? if i set 55 it will reach 53C ???
Are you sure this is only reason for that?
/i call the service, they make quastion to the factory in your country and they said that didn`t know why my alfa do this. Since the service was offered to replace the control board to see if it will stay that way?

@Dgordana
Iskljuci obavestenje u podesavanjima .
Parametar je 8-4-12 Time Service ON
Stavi ga na OFF. To je to :)

Yeah , he was pretty much cleard i would say.
And I also share that opinion , if it means to you.

@bmahob

Unfortunately ( or not ), Alfa commo works so that gradually reduces the force when approaching a given temperature. If you set for example to 65 C , at 62 C decreases the power to 4 ,at 63 C decreases the power to 3 , at 64 C decreases the power to 2 , and at 65 C decreases the power to 1.

And now , in your case , power in work 3 mode is not enough to heat-up water to 64 C to reduce power to work 2 mode ( heat loss in the house ).
No need to replace electronics , its all OK.

PS. :To test this - try to close one or two radiators , then water should reach set temperature.

Potpis

Commo Compact 23 (4-18 kW) ,180m2 u 3 etaže na 870 mnv , izolacija 5cm zid ,20cm krov
VTC 512 @60C ,9 panelnih radijatora +termoglave , 2 sušača ,100L kombi bojler, T vode 65 C
Električni kotao Vaillant 18kW
Klima inverteri: MITSUBISHI MSZ-SF42VE, HITACHI RAC-DJ50

Hvala puno na brzom odgovoru!

So you advise me not to touch anything on the hardware of the fireplace? And her tune to modulate only room temperature. About the settings to get them back to the factory? The bad thing is that they have quite a high temperature of exhaust gases. Another question in the room where the fireplace / about 35m2 / I have two radiator 120 cm to 60 cm / about 2,9kw / if turn off one of them can reach the set temperature?