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Citat: Na ovoj temi ja se rukovodim onim sto si ti rekao ovdje, a to sta si pisao o necem drugom ne vidim kako moze promjeniti znacenje onoga sto si ovdje napisao.
Moze, moze...ali redom...
Citat: A sto se tice moje kompetentnosti, ajmo onda redom kad se vec za to prozivamo. Posto iz tvog pisanja ja zakljucujem da naucna elita mahom podrzava ovo vjerovanje, a zatucanci ga osporavaju, prvo, molim te, posto ja raspolazem sasvim suprotnim informacijama, pokazi ovdje koliki je to postotak naucnog svijeta (sa naucnim zvanjima i naucnim radovima iza sebe) koji vjeruje u ovo sto se ovdje propagira, a koliki postotak sarlatana i tinejdzera i fanova sf-stripova kojima su glavni dokazi za sve ovo razno-razni ufo-sajtovi i klubovi ufo-fanova.
Ja potpuno razumem kakav teret za psihu je saznanje da je 99% zvanicnih dokumenata o bilo cemu stvar trenutne volje vladara koji je dobio poslednji rat, ali
ako se, uprkos neumitnosti dogme, napravi sulud potez provirivanja preko svog sopstvenog plota (sto bi u ovom slucaju znacilo malo googlanja), moze da se
nadje ovako nesto:
Dakle: http://www.google.com/search?h...Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
daje sledece detalje:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc597.htm
Citat:
Aeronautics and Astronautics
"AIAA Committee looks at the UFO Problem", Aeronautics and Astronautics, December, 1968, p. 12.
Golomb S., "The Wheel in the Middle of the Air," Aeronautics and Astronautics, AIAA Sounding Board, August 1966, p. 16.
Letters to AIAA Journal, Nov. 1966, p. 6. Early and Marsh on "Saucer Doctrine".
Friedman, S.T., "Flying Saucers are Real ", Aeronautics and Astronautics, Feb., 1968, p. 16.
Friedman, S.T., "UFO reports available," Aeronautics and Astronautics, April, 1971, p. 4.
Kuettner, J. P., "A New Start on the Whole UFO ProbIem?", Aeronautics and Astronautics, November 1973.
McDonald, James E., "UFOs: Extraterrestrial Probes?", Aeronautics and Astronautics, Vol. 5, August 1967, pp. 19-20.
McDonald, James E., "UFO Encounter I - Air Force Observations of an Unidentified Flying Object in the South-Central U.S., July 17, 1957", in Aeronautics and Astronautics, July, 1971, pp. 66-70.
Sturrock, Peter. A., "UFO Reports from AIAA Members", Aeronautics and Astronautics, Vol. 12, pp. 60-64, 1974.
Thayer, Gordon D., "UFO encounter II - The Lakenheath England, Radar-Visual UFO case, August 13-14, 1956", Aeronautics and Astronautics, Sept., 1971, pp. 60-64.
AIAA UFO Subcommittee, "UFO: An Appraisal of the Problem", Aeronautics and Astronautics, Vol. 8. No. 11, November 1970, P. 49-51.
Carlson J. B., and Sturrock, Peter A., "Stanford Workshop on Extraterrestrial Civilization: Opening a New Scientific Dialog", Aeronautics and Astronautics, June, 1975, pp. 64-65.
"Our Extraterrestrial Heritage: From UFO's to Space Colonies", Proceedings of the Joint Symposium, Los Angeles, Calif., January 28, Symposium sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics and World Futures Society, 1978.
American Association for the Advancement of Science
McDonald, James E., "Science in Default: 22 Years of Inadequate UFO Investigations", American Association for the Advancement of Science, 134th Meeting, December 27, 1969.
Hynek, J. Allen, "Twenty-one Years of UFO Reports", American Association for the Advancement of Science, 134th Meeting, December 27, 1969.
Baker, R. M. L., "Motion Pictures of UFO's", American Association for the Advancement of Science, 134th Meeting, December 27, 1969.
American Meteorological Society
McDonald, James E., "Meteorological Factors in Unidentified Radar Returns", Paper Presented at the 14th Radar Meteorology Conference, Tucson, Arizona, Nov. 17-20, 1970. Boston: American Meteorological Society (1970), pp. 456-463.
American Society of Mechanical Engineers
Morgan, David L. Jr., "Evaluating Extreme Movements of UFO's and Postulating an Explanation of Effects of Forces on Their Maneuverability", ASME Design Engineering conference, New York City, May 15-19, 1967, session 10.
Earley, G., "UFOs: An Historical Perspective", ASME Design Engineering conference, New York City, May 15-18, 1967, pp. 1-15, session 10.
American Journal of Physics
Page, Thornton, "Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects," American Journal of Physics, October, 1969.
Bulletin of the Atomic Scientist
Hynek, A., "The Condon Report and UFOs", Bulletin of the Atomic Scientist, April 1969, pp. 39-42.
Munday, J., "On the UFOs", Bulletin of the Atomic Scientist, Dec 1967, pp. 40-41.
Condon, Edward U., "UFOs I have Loved and Lost", Bulletin of the Atomic Scientist, Vol 15, No. 10.
Applied Optics
Maccabee, Bruce, "Photometric Properties of an Unidentified Bright Object Seen Off the Coast of New Zealand", Applied Optics, Vol 18, No. 15, 2527-28, 1979.
Maccabee, Bruce, "Photometric Properties of an Unidentified Bright Object Seen Off the Coast of New Zealand -- Author's Reply to Comments", Applied Optics, 19, 1745, 1980.
Icarus
McDonald, James E., "The Condon Report", Icarus, Vol 11, #3, November 1969, pp. 443-447.
Astronomy
Dickinson, Terence, "The Zeta Reticuli Incident", Astronomy, December 1974, 32 pages.
Industrial Research
"UFO's probably exist", Industrial Research and Development, Vol. 13, No. 4, April 1971, p. 75.
"Did UFOs Go Away?", Industrial Research and Development, Vol. 21, No. 2, February 1979, p. 191.
"Good Chance UFOs Exist in Some Form", Industrial Research and Development, July 1979, p. 139.
Scientific Research
"Libel Suit May Develop From UFO Hassle", Scientific Research, may 13, 1968, pp. 11-12.
Baker, Robert M. L., Jr., "The UFO Report: Condon Study Falls Short", Scientific Research, April 14, 1969, p. 41.
Popular Science
Armagnac, Alden P., "Condon Report on UFOs: Should You Believe It?", Popular Science, April 1969, pp. 72-76.
Engineering Opportunities
Hersey, Irwin, "UFOs and the Condon Report: Are All the Answers in?", Engineering Opportunities, April 1969, pp. 39-42.
McDonald, James E.,"The Dissenting View", Engineering Opportunities, April 1969, p. 33.
Science and Mechanics
Mallan, Loyd, "The Condon Report: Fact or Fiction?", Science and Mechanics, 40.5, May 1969, pp. 38-40, 86,88,90.
Technology Review
Hynek, J. Allen, "The UFO Phenomenon: Laugh, Laugh, Study, Study", Technology Review, Vol. 83, No. 7 July 1981, pp. 50-58.
Nature
Ridpath, Ian, "Interview with J. Allen Hynek", Nature, Vol. 251, October 1974, p. 369.
Journal of the Optical Society of America
Hynek, J., "Unusual Aerial Phenomena", Journal of the Optical Society of America, April 1953.
Journal of Astronautical Sciences
Baker, Robert M., "Observational Evidence of Anomalistic Phenomena", Journal of Astronautical Sciences, Vol. XV, No. 1, pp. 31-36, Jan-Feb, 1968.
Baker, Robert M., "Future Experiments on Anomalistic Observational Phenomena", Journal of Astronautical Sciences, Vol. XV, No. 1, pp. 44-45, Jan-Feb, 1968.
Walker, Sydney, "Establishing Observer Creditability: A Proposed method", Journal of Astronautical Sciences, Vol. XV, No. 2, pp. 92-96, March-April, 1968.
Bio-Science
Salisbury, Frank B., "The Scientist and the UFO", Bio-Science, Vol. 17, no. 1, 1967.
Science
Powers, William, "Analysis of UFO Reports", Science, Vol. 156, 7 April, 1967.
Hynek, Allen J., "UFO's Merit Scientific Study", Science, October 21, 1966.
Markowitz, W.,"The Physics and Metaphysics of Unidentified Flying Objects", Science, Vol. 157, 1967.
Boffey, Philip M.,"UFO Project: Trouble on the Ground", Science, Vol. 161, July 26, 1968, pp. 339-42.
Boffey, Philip M.,"UFO Study: Condon Group Finds No Evidence of Visits from Outer Space", Science, Vol. 163, January 17, 1969, pp. 260-62.
Murray, Bruce C.,"Reopening the Question", Science, Vol. 177, August 25, 1972, pp. 688-89.
Holden, Constance,"Air Force Bestows on National Archives a Trove for UFOlogists", Science Vol 193, August 20, 1976, pp. 662-663.
Physics Today
Friedman, S.T., "More on UFO's", Physics Today, P. 97, January 1971.
Powers, W. T., " Case for "real" UFO's", Physics Today, P. 14, June, 1970.
"Condon Study Rebuts UFOs; Critics Offer Own Version", Physics Today, Vol. 22, Nr. 3, March 1969, p. 67, p. 71.
"Edward Condon: A physicist Never Afraid of a Fight", Physics Today, Vol. 22, Nr. 3, March 1969, pp. 66-67.
Rothberg, Gerald, "UFOs: Fact or Fiction?", Physics Today, Vol. 22, Nr. 12, December, 1969, pp. 69-71.
Popular Photography
Hynek, Allen J.,"How to Photograph a UFO", Popular Photography, March 1968, p. 69-110-112-114.
Journal of Scientific Exploration
Brandenburg, John E., DiPietro, Vincent, and Molenaar, Gregory, "The Cydonian Hypothesis", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 5, No. 1, 1991, pp. 1-27.
Bounais, M., "Traumatology as a Potent Tool for Identifying Actual Stresses Elicted by Unidentified Sources: Evidence for Plant Metabolic Disorders in Correlation with a UFO landing", Journal of scientific exploration, Vol. 4, No. 1, 1990, pp. 1-18.
Bramley, William, "Can the UFO Extraterrestrial Hypothesis and Vallee Hypotheses Be Reconciled?", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 6, No. 1, 1992, pp. 3-11.
Guerin, Pierre, "A Scientific Analysis of Four Photographs of a Flying Disk Near Lac Chauvet", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 8, No. 4, 1994, pp. 447-469.
Haines, Richard and Vallee, Jacques, "Photo Analysis of an Aerial Disc Over Costa Rica", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 3, No. 2, 1989, pp. 113-131.
Haines, Richard and Vallee, Jacques, "Photo Analysis of an Aerial Disc Over Costa Rica: New Evidence", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 4, No. 1, 1990, pp. 71-74.
Haines, Richard, "Analysis of a UFO Photograph", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 1, No. 2, 1987, pp. 129-147.
Henry, Richard C., "UFOs and NASA", Journal of Scientific Exploration,
Vol 2, No. 2, 1988, pp. 93-142.
Maccabee, Bruce, "Analysis of the Images of a Cluster of periodically Flashing Lights Filmed Off the Coast of New Zealand", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 1, No. 2, pp. 149-190, 1987.
Maccabee, Bruce, "Strong Magnetic Field Detected Following a Sighting of an Unidentified Flying Object", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 8, No. 3, 1994, pp. 347-365.
Sturrock, Peter, "An Analysis of the Condon Report on the Colorado UFO Project", Vol 1, No. 1, 1987, pp. 75-100.
Sturrock, Peter, "Report on a Survey of the Membership of the American Astronomical Society Concerning the UFO Problem", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 8, No. 1;2;3, 1994, pp. 1-45;153-195;309-346.
Swords, Michael, "Could Extraterrestrial Intelligences be Expected to Breathe Our Air?", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 9, No. 3, 1995,
pp. 381-392.
Velasco, Jean-Jacques, "Report on the Analysis of Anomalous Physical Traces: The 1981 Trans-en-Provence UFO case", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 4, No. 1, 1990, pp. 27-48.
Vallee, Jacques, "Return to Trans-en-Provence", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 4, No. 1, 1990, pp. 19-26.
Vallee, Jacques, "Five Arguments Against the Extraterrestrial Origin of Unidentified Flying Objects", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 4, No. 1, 1990, pp. 105-117.
Vallee, Jacques, "Towards a Second-Degree Extraterrestrial Theory of UFOs: A Response to Dr. Wood and Prof. Bozhich", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 5, No. 1, 1991, pp. 113-120.
Wood, R., "The Extraterrestrial Hypothesis is Not That Bad", Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 5, No. 1, 1991, pp. 103-112.
ako se malo rutinski proceslja (metodom slucajnog uzorka) moze da se vidi da je prosecan autor clanka obavezno neki PhD,
redovni profesor na uglednom univerzitetu, cesto sef katedre za aerospace engineering. Recimo:
Citat:
[Dr. Page received his Ph.D. from Oxford in 1938. He has been Professor of Astronomy at Wesleyan since 1958. He has also been associated
with the universities of Chicago and California, Smithsonian Astrophysics observatory, united Aircraft, Grumman Aircraft, and the Naval Ordnance
Laboratory. His interests include atomic spectra for planetary nebulae, comets, twilight sky, and spiral nebulae. This year he is Research
Associate at the Manned Spacecraft Center, Houston, Texas.]
Pa onda ima i ovoga:
http://www.ufoscience.org/research-coalition.html
Fund for UFO research:
http://www.fufor.com/
http://www.mufon.com/
Center for UFO Studies:
http://www.cufos.org
Citat:
Who started the Center for UFO Studies?
The Center for UFO Studies was started by Dr. J. Allen Hynek, who was a professor of astronomy at Ohio State University, and later,
chairman of the astronomy department at Northwestern University. During the 1950s and 1960s, he served as the astronomical
consultant to the United States Air Force's Project Blue Book. Essentially, his responsibility was to determine whether there was an
astronomical explanation for a UFO sighting. Professor Hynek would study a UFO report and decide if its description of the UFO
suggested a known astronomical object. That is, did the witness see the planet Venus or a meteor instead of a genuine UFO?
Ima ih cak i koji se slikaju, bez stida i srama:
http://www.hallrichard.com/newufopage.htm
a ima ih na tradicionalno tvrdom Stanfordu:
http://news-service.stanford.edu/pr/98/980629ufostudy.html
gde kazu:
Scientific panel concludes some UFO evidence worthy of study
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