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ademare:
Nemacki " Zeleni " su Zlo !!
Iako se predstavljaju Nemackom narodu , kao fina stranka , prevashodno zainteresovana za Ekologiju , ustvari su najvece Zlo tamo !!
Treba samo pogledati sta rade sada i prosli put kada su bili Vlast !!
" Slucajno " bas su oni bili vlast 1999. !!
Njihov tada glavni u vlasti je bio " cuveni " Jozef Fiser ! Valjda ga se svi secamo ? I njegovih zasluga za Bombardovanje i sve ostalo , Ministar spoljnih poslova ! Ali bez podrske Zelenih pokazalo se Stranke Rata , Nemacka ne bi ucestvovala , jer nije bila bas Neohodna !
Gde su Zeleni , tu je Nemacki Rat !!
Stranka Rata !
Od te vlade nisu bili vlast , bas " slucajno " do prosle godine !!
I cap , eto Nemacke opet u Ratu ?!
Neki od osnivaca "zelenih":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joschka_Fischer
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In 1967, he became active in the German student movement and left-wing movement (post-) 1968 (the so-called Spontis), first in Stuttgart and after 1968 in Frankfurt am Main. For his regular income, Fischer took several low-wage jobs, such as working in a left-wing bookstore in Frankfurt. During this period, he began attending university events, including lectures organized by left-wing revolutionary students by Theodor W. Adorno, Jürgen Habermas and Oskar Negt.[4] He studied the works of Marx, Mao and Hegel and became a member of the militant group, Revolutionärer Kampf (Revolutionary Struggle). Fischer was a leader in several street battles involving the radical Putzgruppe (literally "cleaning squad", with the first syllable being an acronym for Proletarische Union für Terror und Zerstörung, "Proletarian Union for Terror and Destruction"), which attacked a number of police officers. Photos of one such brawl in March 1973, which were later to haunt Fischer, show him clubbing policeman Rainer Marx,[5] to whom he later publicly apologized.
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In 1980, he outlined those views in a memorandum to the West German government, asking to retire in the face of what he considered unacceptable military policies; his request was rejected and he resigned.[5] In 1981 he was the joint founder of a group called "Generals for Peace".[6] In the 26 April 1994 edition of The Independent newspaper, Günter Bohnsack, who spent 26 years in the Active Measures Department of the Stasi, claimed that "Generals for Peace was conceived, organised and financed by the Stasi ... This created a real power that was in line with Moscow's ideas ... and we always controlled this through our intelligence services in Moscow and East Berlin."[7]
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Later in West Germany, Bahro said that the theoretical bases for The Alternative were Karl August Wittfogel's 1957 Oriental Despotism: A Comparative Study of Total Power and earlier Marxist works. He was unable to cite Wittfogel because of the latter's anticommunism. Wittfogel also influenced Bahro's later ecological work.[citation needed]
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The Alternative is divided into three parts:
The non-capitalist path to an industrial society
Anatomy of socialism
Strategy for a communist alternative
The introduction begins with the premise that the Communist movement did not lead to the theoretically expected situation, but instead continued on the capitalist path with only superficial changes. "Alienation and the subaltern mentality of the working masses continue on a new level." The book analyzes the reasons for this, and offers solutions.
The first part is a historical analysis of the development of socialism in the Soviet Union. Bahro concludes that in the Soviet Union (and, consequently, also in countries such as the GDR) not the theoretically expected socialism but a form of proto-socialism had emerged. For the reason, he posits that at the time of the October Revolution the Soviet Union was far from the stage of development presumed in Marx's theory of history. Nevertheless, the path chosen by Lenin was correct. Bahro regards Stalin's subsequent massive industrialization as a necessary development, justifying the party purge as inevitable.[4]
In the second part, Bahro analyzes the existing social system, which he believes was incorrectly called "real socialism" when in reality it was still a class society. He detailed how this society worked, and argues that this provided the rationale for the observed economic stagnation.
In the third part, he developed solutions, including a call for a new revolution which would transform not only the social circumstances but the people. Its intention is to overcome the subaltern mentality, the "form of existence and way of thinking of ordinary people." He demanded the abolition of the division of labor; all should participate in science, art and menial work.
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In the 1970s, she was politically active in the Maoist Anti-imperialist League (Liga gegen den Imperialismus) but did not join the party.[1] In 1985 Vollmer joined the Green Party, even though she already had been in the Bundestag since 1983 for that party. Due to the party principle of rotation she had to give up the parliamentary seat in 1985, but was reelected in 1987 and again in 1994, 1998 and 2002. Vollmer was the first politician of the Green Party to be elected into the Presidium of the Bundestag, in November 1994. She remained vice president of the Bundestag until the 2005 elections, when she did not run for re-election.
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OK, mozemo zelenima dati "pass" i reci da su sve ovo davno prosle stvari. Jeste, imali su maoiste, militantne levicare, ocigledno zbunjene ljude (Bahro, koji kritikuje predhodnu implementaciju komunizma i predlaze identicnu stvar sa identicnim manama - cak bi kao Pol Pot da svi rade sve, sa cuvenim nazivom "pravi socijalizam" - termin izbora svake budale koja misli da je pronasla optimalan sistem uredjenja drustva)... ok, ljudski je gresiti - ocigledno su bili instrument Moskve, ali svako zasluzuje drugu sansu.
30 godina kasnije - gospoda traze gasenje nuklearne energije, deindustrijalizaciju zemlje koja zivi od industrije, vracanje u pre-industrijsko doba ostrim ogranicenjima svake produktivne aktivnosti - tipa 30 km/h max brzina po gradovima i sl.
Hmmm... rezultat toga bi bila drzava koja je kompletno zavisna od ruske energije i kineske robe, sa uber-elitom koji jedu alfafu i p*de o solarnim plocama. Ako govore kao ruski korisni idioti, onda je to potpuna slucajnost!
@ademare, nema sta da te cudi. :Zeleni" tzv "pacifisti" su zapravo toksicni militanti - njima je upravo uspelo da Nemacku po prvi put posle WWII uguraju u vojni sukob 1999-te.
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